I let nothing cloud my judgement, I can unfortunately see this from that of those whom have family killed and injured, and also from Mr Moats side but that certainly doesn't mean I condone his actions or agree with what he did, I've said that all along.

If you go a few pages back, I mentioned I've had a member of my family murdered I was 16 at the time, that member of my family was stabbed to death in front of their two oldest children by a gang of teenagers that should have known better, because they were teenagers the oldest one got sentenced to manslaughter and the others for for assisting and encouraging in my uncles stabbing which meant of course nothing more than slapped wrists for them all, they all walk around free now, whilst we all got a life sentence.

Speaking as someone who has had a member of their family tragically snatched away, yes you are damn well angry at the time & do struggle to come to terms with that loss and it takes a long, long time, here I am 20 years later still mourning that loss of life but at the stage where I am no longer angry, even going as far as forgiving the people responsible - because if you don't it eats away at you and completely destroys your life, which is what has happened to the two oldest sons who saw their father die, both are dependant on drugs (heroin) and have been in and out of prison since then for petty offences, I wasn't prepared to let that happen to me but it doesn't mean I don't miss or love the person that died, it just means I wasn't prepared to let what happened destroy and control my life - as explained above after those circumstances, you have two paths that can be taken, we have one life, it's not a dress rehersal.

No one can actually say what they think of the police until you need their help, but more times that most (as above) you are let down by them and the CPS. Murder is murder if you take anothers life, life should mean life, even if they are teenagers.

I've never said Mr Moat was a good man or a hero as he wasn't, but I do honestly believe he was disturbed in some way I can't see what is wrong with that as I honestly believe that to be the case of those people who stabbed my uncle to death because it isn't normal is it? We don't all suddenly wake up one morning and decide to go shooting at someone or stab someone to death - if you do, your not in the right state of mind and need help.

I don't believe everything I read in the papers, as we all know they thrive on destroying lives further and live for sensationalism - it's how they happen to sell the damn things which belong in the bin.

I've bolded ''hence the warning from prison staff'' just to highlight a few things, that warning may have been given but what was done about it ? Nothing, just simply left for someone else to pass the book, had something been done, Chris Brown could have quite possibly still been alive to tell the tale and Sam Stobbart may not have been injured along with PC Rathband - those threats, may have not been taken seriously enough, may have been like too much paperwork, or the warnings from other inmates to Prison Staff were not believed.

He could have been detained there further for ''Making threats to kill/Injure Harm someone''. http://www.statutelaw.gov.uk/content...&filesize=2228

That is a crime in itself, he because of that could of had extra days, weeks, months added to that sentence, they are called '''Adjudication Hearings''' he could have got a maximum of 42 days added to that sentence for each finding of guilt, anything over that it would have had to go to an outside court hearing - but still, the failings are there.

As to regards the public fan pages webpages, I cannot mourn for someone I did not know.
But, whether we like it or not Mr Moat had family and friends who did love him whom have a right to mourn his loss whether we view that sick or wrong is either here nor there, love cannot be turned off, love sees beyond flaws, mistakes, weaknesses and poor judgements, we all have faults, we aren't all perfect and whatever we do in life there are always going to be people left behind that miss us, despite what we do or may have done.

Yet they did NOTHING to help during the time he was evading capture, terrorising people, KILLING people, breaking into peoples homes. They did NOTHING to warn Police of his intentions, (except his uncle who was useless and his mother who wanted him dead) NOTHING to highlight the risk he posed BEFORE leaving prison, and NOTHING to help UNTIL he was captured, yeah, they can have THEIR bit of fame now, just a shame the poor families of the man he killed cant even have their son to love anymore.

I cannot believe any clear thinking person can have any sympathy for a monster like that, he deserves nothing more than he got.

Nor me, I am really disturbed by the amount of justifaction that is being given for his actions, here and around the net.

Seems Moat did Infact ask for help back In 09 and knew himself he was going over the 'edge'. But then when offered help he didnt turn up!

http://www.itv.com/news/exclusive-moat-tapes24588/


In this video, He acts a victim I think he did need help, but If he didnt turn up when the help was offered there Is nothing anyone could do, right?

I also watched the clip from the cop that was shot, and that broke my heart The last thing he was that vile man, he wont ever see what his kids look like now and cant watch them grow.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...aoul-Moat.html

Such a waste of life for a true brave man! One that wanted to help real victims, and catch real criminals. Where Is his support? ohh yeah he didnt kill anyone, run from the police, hurt strangers, scare a country or infact kill an innocent person so doesnt freaking deserve it! Makes my blood boil, turns my stomach and makes me mad that humans could be so cold hearted.


Its very worrying/shocking/sick and hundred other words to know the support Moat Is still receiving I mean seriously, what Is wrong with some people.
Like I have said before imo If he was so brave he would still be hear now, owning up to the cowardly things he done, and giving some sort of reasoning to it.

There Is something like 35,000 members now part of the 'support of Moat' groups! :shock:

im surprised how ive heard nothing but moat this and moat all bloody week yet only heard yesterday....after 1 week...the officer he shot was shot in the face and may lose both eyesight now, how come that only whispered it way to the top of the bulletins so late in the day whilst all this shouty moat stuff has being going on.

the bloke was a crim...the police may have made a few errors, but its no chest beating issue, he's dead now....

.....so can the news shut up now and ignore a bunch of [System edit: Contains pet groups] jeremy kyle pond life.