Bye then...

LOL. What in the heck are you basing this on? perhaps you should go and meet the sire of my Lab in the gamekeeper ring at Crufts (10 years old). I assure you he is anything but lame.

Thanks for the laugh though, anyway, Mr. Know-it-all!

Such a 'proffesional' trainer that you can't even spell professional right, eh?

Ohhh I really hope someone's got the soup on...Shame I have to go to work in half an hour!!!!

LOL You said it yourself..MODERN headcollars..yes people have moved on from Archaic methods of torture (*by that I mean choke chains)

ooohh that got some people riled! as far as using check chains, they are a useful bit of kit for training dogs. i dont use them on my dogs now as they are trustworthy to heel. someone asked what my dogs do, i have 2 working line golden retrievers i use for picking up, trialling, trailing, stalking and also helping out moving and driving stock to weigh etc. i have had malinois for personal protection, security and abit of mooching (drawing foxes etc) 2 mongrel lurchers (deer/grey, collie/grey mix) for rabbiting, coursing fox and deer control (when it was legal) for vermin and pest control.

Labrodork: i am basing it on seeing dogs with shocking HD at younger ages even that that. have you ever seen a lab doing what it is bred for? try it one day...

strange, noone has commented about what i said about breeding. guilt maybe? does anyone on here use their dogs for a valid purpose?

Can we see pics of your Malamutes and Siberians please

Ohh and your CED's and Greenlands?

Funny how your profile says MOST WORKING DOGS but the ones you have mentioned are either Gundogs, Pastoral dogs....or mongrels??

cream of mushroom`s quite nice too

yes he warms up my space on the sofa for me !!!
oh by the way welcome to dogsey you might try joining in with an open mind rather than judging us all with our fluffy dogs that you appear to think we all carry round in shopping bags with us !! pmsl

I think it is the Romanian Princess again, you know the one that is dating the rock star