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30-07-2012, 06:36 AM
thanks for all the links, im going to work through these one by one. ill make sure not to use the choker/correction chain
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30-07-2012, 07:09 AM
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....it was frustrating even the trainer who must have had enough and actually hit Simba on the nose.
oh dear, losing their temper is a really bad sign.


thats when we called it a day and put Simba back in the back yard, went inside and had a chat. The trainers advice was this is all the dog trying to be dominant and I need to do everything to ensure im on top of the back etc etc. She also asked for the next two week not to play or pat him (this is when I realised i wont be getting this person back).
I'm so glad. A friend of mine has recenty had to help a dog who was also advised by someone to not play or give any attention to their dog due to "dominance" and all this dogs needed, as my friend showed, was clear guidance and training. The dog and its owners are now doing wonderfully!

So ive been in contact with another trainer that specialises in clicker training and going to try and book a time to have a first session and take it from there.

thanks again for all the info, ill go through the links one by one and try to take it all in.
Good luck, there are some reall good links there

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30-07-2012, 09:08 AM
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until i organise the new trainer what are people thoughts of walking Simba with a correct chain until I get advice from the new trainer (still yet to book a time and date for the initial session)

I wouldn't. I think that the damage it can do to your dogs neck is just too much of a risk,
http://clicktreat.blogspot.ie/2012/0...h-to-your.html

I walk on a harness unless its a quick walk down the road.

If you have trouble with pulling then you could try a head halter to help control this.
If you look at kikopups videos on loose leash walking they should help too if he pulls on the leash.
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30-07-2012, 05:17 PM
if you want to use a device to assist with non pulling i wouldn't use a check chain, i would use a no pull harness, or a dogmatic / halti head collar, or both

however, they don't replace training and you have been given excellent advice on that already.

when your dog is walking well and you are enjoying that it will be worthwhile, it may well take time but it will indeed be worthwhile

good luck, keep us all posted
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31-07-2012, 12:22 AM
thanks again for all the replies.

went for a walk last night, just used his regular collar. its going to take some serious time to get Simba to stop pulling but im never going to give up.

havent been able to book a time with the new trainer yet.

Simba is getting great with playing ball in the back yard, he brings it to me, drops it at my feet, or very close to it and he knows to sit and not try to snatch it out of my hand when i pick it up.

just going to continue on the leash walking and book that training session with the new trainer ASAP
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31-07-2012, 01:49 AM
just booked the new trainer for this weekend. 1.5 hour lesson. also learnt that the trainer has owned GSD's before so this should be a big help in iteself.

fingers crossed this works out better than the last one.

ill keep this thread updated for how things progress.
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31-07-2012, 06:41 AM
one bit of advice, tell the trainer what you want before they even start

good trainers assess the dog and the handler, not so good trainers take over and demonstrate how its done - most trainers forget that they themselves are good handlers and the person who they are training is not

if it was me i would be stating that i want reward based techniques only and will not use any devices that may inflict pain on the dog
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31-07-2012, 09:04 AM
I agree,state exactly what you want as soon as the trainer arrives.

Here are some things that should help with the pulling on the lead for the time being,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFgtqgiAKoQ&feature=plcp

And kikopup has some more bits too,if you go to her channel and search under 'loose leash walking' you should find some more things.

And here are some articles,
http://www.deesdogs.com/documents/strolling_on_lead.doc
http://www.deesdogs.com/documents/lo..._diagramed.doc
http://www.deesdogs.com/documents/le...lktogether.pdf
Look here under loose leash walking
http://www.clickersolutions.com/articles/index.htm


I wish you all the best! Hope it goes well for you!
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01-08-2012, 12:41 AM
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one bit of advice, tell the trainer what you want before they even start

good trainers assess the dog and the handler, not so good trainers take over and demonstrate how its done - most trainers forget that they themselves are good handlers and the person who they are training is not

if it was me i would be stating that i want reward based techniques only and will not use any devices that may inflict pain on the dog
thats some great advice, thanks, I will ensure I do this with the new trainer before we begin.
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01-08-2012, 01:15 AM
Originally Posted by Pindonkey View Post
I agree,state exactly what you want as soon as the trainer arrives.

Here are some things that should help with the pulling on the lead for the time being,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFgtqgiAKoQ&feature=plcp

And kikopup has some more bits too,if you go to her channel and search under 'loose leash walking' you should find some more things.

And here are some articles,
http://www.deesdogs.com/documents/strolling_on_lead.doc
http://www.deesdogs.com/documents/lo..._diagramed.doc
http://www.deesdogs.com/documents/le...lktogether.pdf
Look here under loose leash walking
http://www.clickersolutions.com/articles/index.htm


I wish you all the best! Hope it goes well for you!
ive seen that fist vid before, and tried it for a brief time, Simba just ends up doing circles around me so Im going to leave the leash walking until the trainer starts on the weekend. for the time being ill do the best I can while he's on the lead and try to not get frustrated

i checked out the kikopup vids yesterday, noticed there's heaps and they all seem very helpful, just need the time to sit down and go through them.
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