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14-05-2011, 09:36 PM
I've just been struck with a terrifying thought. What if infact I'm wrong and there is a Heaven and Hell...What if I'm stuck in Heaven for all eternity...With my family...Noooo.
...Sod that, Lucifer better get the kettle on, there's no way I'm staying up there in that case.
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14-05-2011, 09:37 PM
Originally Posted by tazer 
I'm not sure why you'd accuse me of persecution either (not just simple prejudice, both of which are wrong anyway) but you did...You used that word and it wasn't just aimed at me I don't think.
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I take it this is not about this thread
When did I accuse you of persecution
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14-05-2011, 10:21 PM
Originally Posted by Jackbox
I take it this is not about this thread
When did I accuse you of persecution
Originally Posted by Krusewalker
She was being ironic
She was referring to when SHE was accused of persecution (by yourself, i think she is saying???) on the christianity thread when she made comments about (your???) christianity in the same vain you just commented about islam.
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14-05-2011, 10:49 PM
Originally Posted by Velvetboxers
To me, all the evidence collected so far, points to there not being a god, godess, non-gender assigned divine being, or multiple deities of any kind.
What evidence - Im curious, nothing more. Do you not believe there is a purpose to life and why we are here?
So, no matter how hard I try and trust me I have, I just can't believe in he/she/it/them, or follow any religion there of.
If there isnt a higher being of some sort why do you think we are here? How did we get here? Why were we put here? Again I am just curious to others perspectives
However, if I'm proven wrong then so be it.
None of us will really know 100% until we die
What does that make me? agnostic, or atheist.
DEFINITION OF AGNOSTIC - A person who believes that nothing is known or can be known of the existence or nature of God or of anything beyond material phenomena; a person who claims neither faith nor disbelief in God
That is something you need to decide for yourself
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15-05-2011, 08:43 AM
Originally Posted by Jackbox
I think its not only the quotes getting mixed up
I`m not mocking anyone .
I referred to the term , in response to your post stating .......
I dont accuse anyone of religious prejudice, and as you brought "old" threads into this thread, my reference was to those..in as much as I have no problems with anyone believes anything or not as the case may be..........but when some (in old threads ) mock others for their beliefs, then I find that offensive.
NO ONE , in this thread has "mocked " any religion , not sure why you seem to think otherwise.
Think I need to go get another glass of wine, it might make the way this thread has gone a little clearer
just like i said then, your comments about islam are just "comment", our comments about chrisitianity are "mockery"
ummmm....i never said you mocked anyone, i actually said good for you criticising islam.
im just waiting for the hypothetical muslim to ape the 'mockery' line you took against previous critics of christianity (or ramble doing it for them?).
you are taking single lines out of context/too literally, and missing the actual overall message.
like i said, its the whole Chef thing from South Park.
which means i agree with you........what mockery::
This thread, that thread, any thread????
(plenty of "criticising aspects on religion we dont like though")
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15-05-2011, 09:11 AM
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15-05-2011, 09:33 AM
Needs to get back on track
Folk stop quoting from other threads
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15-05-2011, 10:13 AM
Originally Posted by tazer
DEFINITION OF ATHEIST - One who disbelieves or denies the existence of God or gods.
DEFINITION OF AGNOSTIC - A person who believes that nothing is known or can be known of the existence or nature of God or of anything beyond material phenomena; a person who claims neither faith nor disbelief in God
That is something you need to decide for yourself
Ref the evidence, I suggest the fossel record would be a good place to start looking.
You've highlighted the major mistake and greatest assumption of many a believer trying to understand evolution. That being that there must/has to be a 'higher' purpose...That we're all here for some great reason.
Evolution is not an entity, it doesn't think hmmm, today I feel like making a tiger, it doesn't think at all. It is a process.
I'll stop there, this is a whole other thread in itself...and I think I've managed to take this one off track far enough already.
However, if you really are interested in learning more, there're some books I can reccamend. I also know of a paleontologist/evolutionary biologist who I'm sure wouldn't mind you emailing them. He'll be able to explain it far better and in more detail than I ever could.
Btw, I do find religion interesting to learn about, even if I don't believe in it.
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15-05-2011, 10:40 AM
Originally Posted by Krusewalker
i have read all this.
just like i said then, your comments about islam are just "comment", [B]our comments about chrisitianity are "mockery"Mmmmmmmmm, where did I say that??
My guess is from here.
I dont compare me saying ... I dislike halal slaugher , as mockery of a relgion.
I call mockery of a relegion, when some one tells others, they are deluded for beleiving in God, when it is directed towards "indeviduals"
ummmm....i never said you mocked anyone, I actually said
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