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21-09-2009, 08:52 AM
Originally Posted by wolfdogowner 
Its not my experience with dogs. They seem to have very specific relationships to each other, jealousy, affection etc
As for the TV program! What you are talking about is minor differences, dependent on a lot of other factors and survival pressures. The French spend considerably more time with their families and children than the English; this does not however imply any form of evolutionary divergence. Different wolf packs behave differently depending on social pressures, availability of food, climate etc etc even though they are essentially the same species or subspecies.
It is the minor differences that set apart each community regardles of species. Dogs, genetically, are nigh on all the same but it is the switching on and off of specific genes that has resulted int he huge differences we see today. I would no more treat my dogs all the same as I would people, they are all individuals and need to be treated as such.
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21-09-2009, 11:53 AM
Originally Posted by Mahooli
Well it is my experience with dogs, even looking at other peoples, I think too much human reactions and responses are put onto dogs such as jealousy which is a human concept and does not apply to dogs.
It is the minor differences that set apart each community regardles of species. Dogs, genetically, are nigh on all the same but it is the switching on and off of specific genes that has resulted int he huge differences we see today. I would no more treat my dogs all the same as I would people, they are all individuals and need to be treated as such.
Becky
You say they are all individuals but do you then deny them any form of emotion? I have a dog that will go for my other dog if he has previously seen me giving the other dog a lot of attention. How do you describe that action?
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21-09-2009, 11:56 AM
Originally Posted by wolfdogowner
You say they are all individuals but do you then deny them any form of emotion? I have a dog that will go for my other dog if he has previously seen me giving the other dog a lot of attention. How do you describe that action?
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21-09-2009, 12:08 PM
Originally Posted by Mahooli
Of course I don't deny that they have emotions but looking at it as jealousy is not accurate. I would say that more accuately the behaviour you describe is a form of resource guarding.
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21-09-2009, 12:14 PM
Originally Posted by Mahooli
Of course I don't deny that they have emotions but looking at it as jealousy is not accurate. I would say that more accuately the behaviour you describe is a form of resource guarding.
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21-09-2009, 12:35 PM
Originally Posted by oldshep52
That is interesting as an interpretation of the dictionary given definition of jealous can well be "resource guarding" so they are either very similar, parallel or identical emotions.
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21-09-2009, 02:45 PM
Originally Posted by Ben Mcfuzzylugs
In reality it dosent matter to the dog whether we thing we are Alpha, leader, boss, parent, guide, friend, provider, owner or mummy/daddy
Just so long as we give them a secure life, food, shelter, love and consistant fair training
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21-09-2009, 10:14 PM
Originally Posted by Sarah27
Just been catching up with this thread, but wanted to say I completely agree with you Ben McF and I think I would like the above quote on a poster on my wall
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30-09-2009, 06:23 PM
Interesting!
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