Hello all
I have seen a bolt gun used on my elderly cow and on sheep which were ill. Used by the trained operator death was instantaneous. They dropped instantly. When the old mare needed to be PTS we got the vet out and it was a much slower more traumatic process for her carers. i rather wished I had got the slaughter man out with his gun.
There is NO WAY a dog could survive a correctly placed bolt gun. The picture has to be showing an injury caused by something else.
As for PTS dogs by bolt gun I think there might be circumstances where it's use is justified but in the main the injection by a vet for an old or sick animal is the most peaceful for all concerned.
The kind of circumstances would be where the dog could not be handled safely and had to be put in a restraint perhaps.
Louise

Good post and exactly what my feelings are too. This thread was posted to cause trouble and is based on NO truth at all. Id ask the thread be closed as its a deliberate attempt to cause trouble.

Is there a law that prohibits untrained people to use captive bolt guns or are they supposed to be used by pros?

I disagree totally about a bolt gun being "the kindest way to put your horse down" Jackbox. I had to have one of my horses put down, and I debated long and hard with the vet about the best method. He said absolutely without a doubt the injection method is the kindest and causes the least trauma to both horse and owner. However, in the case of injection, the carcase could not go to the local hunt kennels but had to be incinerated. I was not allowed to bury him in the fields (not that I wanted to). He explained that very occasionally the bolt did not cause instant death, and weighing up all the pros and cons, I decided on the injection.

Ah right, I understand, you are being pre-judgemental Dawn! That's a bit unfair isn't it? I don't know Jodie I don't think, so am neutral on the subject, but how do you KNOW that she posted this thread in an attempt to cause aggro? You asked for proof of her doing so ... well, I am asking for proof from you that she is deliberately trying to stir up trouble. Fair do's !

Bear with me mate I cant be on here long.

Im glad to hear you have changed your mind on it being OK to use these on dogs – lets face it they are very used to being handled.

This person also handed in dogs that were ill treated in other ways – why would she be bothered about one that had been shot? Pretty much knew that nothing would be done about it – or very little anyway!

Your right she is being exposed for cruelty and why shouldn’t she be? She allowed this dog to go to a vets with an untreated injury along with the others .

Did you leave your dogs and horses untreated?



"major traumatic impact to the head " Racing greyhounds very have the chance to run into sharp objects unless at the track – most paddocks for running them are cleared of just such objects because they will cause injury. How would you not notice it and leave it to fester?

You don’t think the dog would of survived?

Remember this?



“A man out walking discovered his battered body on Fochriw Mountain in the Rhymney Valley. He heard whimpering and went to investigate. The sight that met him was horrific and is a sight that should never have happened. A greyhound was lying half-dead amongst the rubbish having shot in the head with a captive bolt pistol. Also, both of his ears had been hacked off so he could not be identified.

However, despite Rusty's heartbreaking injuries, he still wagged his tail at the man. A loving and sunny natured greyhound, Rusty could have been taken to a shelter and then adopted by the loving family he deserved. Instead, Rusty had to be put to sleep as a result of severe brain injury. He had been lying on the rubbish tip for at least 24 hours before he was discovered.”


Or was this just another load of rubbish made up by those who are against the indiscrimate killing of dogs?

Im glad to hear you have do NOW have a problem with it being used on dogs depending on circumstances

So when an animal is used to being handled and is not stressed out by being handled it is not ok?

Dawn you have now accused both Jodie and myself of only posting on threads that hold an interest for us. Unfortunately I do not have the time or capacity to post on threads that have no particular interest for me and Im not sure why I should do so just to please you, if the mods have a problem with it I am sure they will inform me of it. I didn’t know it was a rule that people had to post on more than one thread. Yes I love reading about other people’s dogs, training methods and I do read them but do not feel it necessary to respond to every one of them – you may have the time on your hands to do so but I and Im sure others do not.

Also to some of use the greyhound industry and its disposal methods are not rubbish or boring it would be nice if you could consider other people’s opinions as different to yours and not just insist that they are rubbish.

But JB many of us think of greyhounds as dogs - not some sort of subspecies that should be in a separate category from ‘dogs’.

To some of us they are not stock or another species altogether – they are dogs! Greyhounds are dogs and they are used for racing why should they not be discussed on a forum for dog lovers?

Do you think every thread should have the breed of dog in its title then – would that be a way forward so that people who do not wish to hear about greyhounds can miss them out?

I know you and Jodie twist facts to suit, but the truth in this case was Rusty was shot with a NAIL GUN.

So this being a disscussion about Captive Bolt guns......

Try to stick to Topic