As said before, its not something I would do with my company, its just not viable, but if part of a contract required it, yes I would sub contract for a dog and handler.. that way its not my insurance and liability on the line...

Gorgeous pics xx

Shona isn't the only one to be having a heart attack - I am myself reading this!

Please tell me I've misunderstood here and you haven't only read up about Rotts for 30 mins before getting one with immense behavioural problems?

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I completely disagree that this is misplaced behaviour - a dog "pulls, lunges, bites, barks, bounds and air snaps at face height" is absolutely showing outward aggression, which seemingly has been 'taught' by a boy of 15. Rotties are a natural guard dog, in the wrong hands (and clearly this boy has been) inciting their aggression, they can be extremely dangerous. IMO the very last thing this Rott needs is to be encouraged to defend/guard even further. If anything he needs taken back to absolute basics and socialized and re-trained completely to try and cancel out all these horrendous bad habits.

Only a dog who is of balanced mind and temperament should be trained for this line of work and even then only by someone with experience who knows what they are doing. This dog is far from that.

As for that last bit about if he doesn't work out with the protection/security training he will make a fine family companion. I strongly disagree - yes, dogs like Police dogs who have been trained and raised properly by professionals can fit into the family home and many of them successfully live with their handlers families once retired. But these dogs do not have behavioural issues and have been manhandled by a young boy and show aggressive not to mention highly dangerous tendancies. He simply isn't cut out for protection work.

If you teach this dog any more aggression or bite work then put him in a family home, you may as well be lighting the blue touch paper to a disaster.

I cannot remember in my whole time of being on Dogsey being so worried over a post. I do hope you re-consider what you are doing with this dog.

I hope as with my previous replies, I have helped ease your concerns. It does seem it is the Rottie fraternity taking objection to my plans. Nothing wrong with protecting your chosen breed of course

If there is genuine interest then I shall continue to update, I would have thought it preferable that a young dog of any breed, but esp a Rott getting an opportunity to have a proper way of life instead of an existence, not least after the start he has had would be seen as a good thing! As a breed they make good working dogs (no shock there), and I firmly believe he has what it takes to be a stable, happy family/working dog.

Ty Lorna, hope to most more soon

Hi Callum

I am actually very interested in how this works out and would like you to keep me info'd - it would be nice to see how his training goes also. I'm not part of the rott fraternity, however i think, at the moment you're judgement was maybe a wee bit misplaced. Time will tell to be fair and if i remember rightly - you have done a lot with dogs.

The tendencies that this rotti has shown before you got him rightly has everyone worried and i for one know that shona for one would have been extremely worried - which i understand after having met hers and spent time with them with my pup. They have such a bad press due to people like these kids.

Common sense prevails and it will be an interesting outcome.

Linda

Thanks for the reply Linda, in the meantime here's a couple of pics from today...

Mid bath, well wash down


Taken just now after a busy day of normality

LOL - at least he lets you take pics - my pup doesn't stop long enough, lol.

He seems quite skinny - i take it you have a wee bit of feeding up to do

I can't believe you are moving from that gorgeous area down to all the hustle and bustle and dirt, lol - are you mad???????

I think I might be, lol.

Yes he is quite out of shape, not skinny so much as undermuscled as it were. Good diet and regular exercise with my other 2 and he will be ship shape. He gets on brilliantly with them both but has been told his place by both. Very pleased they are an acceptable pair. I havent weighed him but the last vet visit had him at 36kg. As far as im aware the past 3-5mnths have not been the most active and certainly not consistent, I like to have day 1 pics for a future comparison.

yes they can do in the right hands, but they can also lack the drive to work for long spells, that said I assume hes just going to be a bite dog, he will not be doing long/cold tracks or anything?

Im sorry you dont like what your hearing callum, but I have seen so many that have tried this and got it so badly wrong, its left to people like myself and AM to pick up the flack for it,
there was a recent story of a rescue selling a rottie to another bouncer who thought he would try his hand at other types of security, when the dog ended up biting his daughters face it was all over the papers, what you have to remember is, its not the rescue, or the owner that carry the can for this stupidity,. ITS THE BREED.
why did you not use your mal? a breed you know well, they have great qualitys for the job,

Your first post puts him at 8 stone... hes not 8 stone, 36kg works in at around 5.5 stone I think, you will have to get some weight on him and condition, 36kg is far to light for a male rottie of that age, my tiny bitch holly is 41kg...vinne is 52kg
If hes standing at 27" hes gona have to bulk up a fair bit, he must be so unfit and under fed.

Can I also ask, his eyes look very puffy on the outer side of his face, Or is it just the long coat making them look like that?

I wouldnt even mind so much Callum but I truely dont think the work you hope for, will be there,. Im not talking off my cuff, im in the business.