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19-08-2008, 11:11 PM
Originally Posted by mse2ponder 
I think it was 34 from the one that had won the club show BIS?
Originally Posted by ClaireandDaisy
I thought the KC people were right in saying they could not force breeders to test or change. They can`t. They are (as are the RSPCA) a self-elected quango, not accountable to anyone outside their own organisation. However, they certainly could make a start by changing breed standards to stress `fitness for purpose` and take some of the emphasis on looks away.
Originally Posted by AliceandDogs
On the other hand, there ARE good breeders who do only breed healthy dogs, and I don't think this was portrayed at all. My Border Collie is touch wood, totally fine, but my crossbreed girl is covered in lumps & has fits just like the boxer did. I don't like the way ALL KC breeders could now be seen as terrible. BYBs will be advertising non-KC as a plus point.
Overall, I think it could have been a lot worse. I must admit I really didn't like Mark Evans - calling all pedigree dogs mutants? I certainly wouldn't take any of my dogs to him if those are his views (I looked very carefully into the health of the lines my dogs come from before going for those lines).
I did think they chose to omit certain pertinant information though, such as stating that white boxers were culled for looks alone - there was absolutely no mention of these dogs having a much higher likelyhood of being deaf etc. I also was unaware that white GSD's were routinely culled as seemed to be inferred in the program.
I did like the representation of the changing scull shapes though!
What are everyone elses views on the statement that "animals with genetic issues should be banned from dog shows"? Whilst this sounds like a good idea in theory, it would be horrendous to put into practice, where would you draw the line?
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19-08-2008, 11:15 PM
Originally Posted by Skyespirit86
I don't know for sure, but I remember reading somewhere that although the kennel club tells members of its responsible breeder scheme to do health tests, that that is as far as it goes. I read that you could still breed a dog and register it if it got a bad result. It just had to have the test.
19-Jun-08
The Kennel Club would like to remind all breeders of Irish Red & White Setters that new rules regarding the DNA Control Scheme for CLAD (Canine Leucocyte Adhesion Deficiency) for the breed are now in place.
As agreed by the Irish Red & White Setter Breed Clubs and the Kennel Club, the Kennel Club will now refuse registration of Irish Red & White Setter puppies unless both parents have been tested clear of CLAD, or are hereditarily clear of CLAD.
No Irish Red & White Setter carriers of CLAD will be registered after 16th June 2008.
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19-08-2008, 11:16 PM
I'm shocked. and that woman who bred that dog knowing full well he has that awful disease is just despicable.
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19-08-2008, 11:18 PM
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19-08-2008, 11:19 PM
that many from an unhealthy dog!!
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19-08-2008, 11:19 PM
Originally Posted by Greyhawk
He had 34 litters in total, however 26 of these were AFTER he had been diagnosed with syringomyelia - to me this is unforgivable!
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19-08-2008, 11:19 PM
They won't though because its full of pomp and something else that goes in bags (that you have to pick up when walking the dog but eludes me at the moment).
We bred one litter but tested (on our side ) for any relevant traits and diseases we could. Many don't do anything at all.
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19-08-2008, 11:19 PM
Originally Posted by Greyhawk
It was incredibly distressing to watch the clip of the poor boxer fitting
You're telling me. You should see it from here.
Overall, I think it could have been a lot worse. I must admit I really didn't like Mark Evans - calling all pedigree dogs mutants? I certainly wouldn't take any of my dogs to him if those are his views (I looked very carefully into the health of the lines my dogs come from before going for those lines).
I would, I think he has a good perspective of how things are at the moment.
I did think they chose to omit certain pertinant information though, such as stating that white boxers were culled for looks alone - there was absolutely no mention of these dogs having a much higher likelyhood of being deaf etc. I also was unaware that white GSD's were routinely culled as seemed to be inferred in the program.
That is awful, on top of the other cullings that were mentioned.
I did like the representation of the changing scull shapes though!
What are everyone elses views on the statement that "animals with genetic issues should be banned from dog shows"? Whilst this sounds like a good idea in theory, it would be horrendous to put into practice, where would you draw the line?
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