till 1989 it was still DDR, NOT Germany

and however, even when that was happens in the BRD, then it was at crises and famine during the WW
guess that makes a difference?

You have no idea under what circumstances swiss people ate meat, you just 'heard about it'. Anyways, you can't make individuals responsible for what used to happen in a country or assume they still behave like a minority of people decades ago. Otherwise, as a German, you'd have a lot to account for as well. So that argument is irrelevant.

I think you're just saying things now to get a reaction, so I'm going to remove myself now from this thread.

it's still up to date

of May the 20th 2013
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013...n_2395276.html

and one quote of it
Rita Dubois of Zurich-based animal welfare group ProTier added: "When a farmer's dog or cat has babies there are bound to be spare ones."

"The logic for the farmers is if they have to kill them anyway, they might as well eat them".

I understand that. But I truly think that while what you're saying is valid, that you're missing my entire point. I was merely saying that allowing readily, or even worse, encouraging your dogs to savage wildlife or do nothing to try and help fellow living creatures is pretty bad IMO.

YES, dogs are meat eaters. YES in the wild lots of seemingly cruel things are done by animals. YES humans cause tons of torture to animals and the world. However; none of that is relevant to what I was saying.

OF COURSE my dogs eat meat, they are supposed to... they are carnivores. I don't study and read up on every single animal that was killed and processed for the many types of dog food, treats, etc. that I give my dog. That would be ridiculous and more or less impossible.

Nobody said anything about killing animals as a food source or whatnot. HUMANS cruelty towards food animals should be regarded as irrelevant in my cause and effect. Because directly, it isn't related to what I was trying to say.

All I was saying is that pets, indoor.. well fed house pets shouldn't be allowed to torture or maim wildlife because while it might be natural to animals humans have no control over.. why let your pet harm wildlife?

Most of the pets don't consume the wildlife they catch, and do it only for fun. Surely the animals don't realize what they're doing is cruel but I find it quite a bit like sport hunting... which I find disgusting.