I weep for my poor breed ......shame on those who would take an intelligent highly sensitive and intensely loyal SHEPHERD dog and try and turn it into some kind of weapon .....is it not about time that bite work was banned as part of the Shutzhund 'sport' ? - it seems to push the 'macho' image that attracts bullies like this .... ..and yes Smokey I do know that abuse happens sadly in other dog activities but I've yet to see it glorified in the way that it seems to be in sports which include bite work - the stick seems to be an integral part of this 'sport' - I hav'nt yet seen a clip where the dog is not threatened with it or actually hit whilst biting the sleeve - how can this be acceptable ? and it's no wonder then that the stick is then used as a training aid too !.

Malinois should NO different to the other varieties of BSD and it truly breaks my heart to see what is happening ....use them as agility, obedience, working trials , therapy dogs SAR, HWTM or any other of the myriad other dog activities my wonderful breed can do - but for pity's sake don't try and turn them into 'Maligators' in order to boost s their owners macho image


Just totally heart breaking

To begin with, there would be no point in banning bite work as part of Schutzhund as the word means Protection Dog and bitework is an integral part of the sport.

Secondly there is a vast difference between the bouncy rubber stick used to mimic an attack on a handler and a hard one used for abuse.

Thirdly Working Trials also includes a bitework stake, PD so would you like that banned too?

I am afraid dog abuse is NOT glorified in Schutzhund, quite the reverse.

Fourthly would you like all BSD to be removed from MoD and police work as well as they too must glorify dog abuse since they use them as GP dogs?

Presumably we should ban the use of police dogs too?

That is the whole point, they are not "attacking" an arm, they are taught to bite a SLEEVE.

There is a subtle difference.

Interesting you bring up police dogs. In the day of modern technology, are dogs trained in bite work really a necessity? I can understand using them as a tool of intimidation but I have to say I do not see the need to get them to bite people.

That is the whole point, they are not "attacking" an arm, they are taught to bite a SLEEVE.

There is a subtle difference.

lets not forget the dog does not discriminate who he bites either.... the first person that gets in the dogs way is the one that gets bitten, be that criminal, police or member of the public

Why would you want your pet dog to attack a sleeve??

A sleeve which is attached to a persons arm....

Are you honestly telling me that if one of those dogs trained in such a way was sent after someone NOT wearing a sleeve, they wouldn't attack it?