Lucky U! maybe i met move to Czech! sounds Peaceful!!!!!!

Its getting Soooo bad in the Uk i think

Dogs are Dogs, Kids are kids, the two should never be compared, lol
some of us have both dogs and kids but have learned to live in harmony with the world where poss....

It would be interesting to know how the mother feels about dogs. OK your dog should have recalled, but it does sound OTT.
If the parents don't react well to dogs it wont help the child. As a child I was terrified of dogs so I do know how bad the felt. My fear came at least partly from my mother's reaction... Don't go too close. Be careful etc,
My father saw things quite differently. Don't be silly, the dog's not interested in you, he'll think your playing with him if you make that fuss...kind of approach. Guess who persuaded me to make friends with a GSD guard dog
Its not nice when these things happen but try to see it as just one of those things and carry on improving recall.

Absolutely not - like the child one day in a workshop who was making fun of someone else`s contribution. I spoke to her about how we have to value what everyone does and learn to respect people. Her mum came and shouted at me the following week - her exact words were " She ain`t comin back. I`m not avin you tellin er to respect people!`
Off topic, sorry. But it`s good to rant

Can't resist asking if you're still working there. If it were me I'd be celebrating that her grotty kid wasn't comming back

Sorry, we must all try to get back on topic

Well said Shona.

Can I just add that there are bratty kids and bratty dogs with stupid owners out there. No one is saying otherwise. It's not a case of the kid is always in the right or the dog is always in the right. Each case on it's own merits.

Mishflynn if I came on here slating all BC's you would be rightfully justified in feeling aggrieved as you have such well trained dogs. By the same token your posts make me feel you are tarring all kids with the same brush and I actually feel mine are quite well trained...well almost

It's like the thread about the cyclists we all need to live and let live and pay each other a bit more respect. But I do agree that this doesn't seem to be the way the world is going whether we're talking about bratty kids, numpty dog owners or inconsiderate cyclists.

J

Fortunately Mothership is right and there ARE lots of lovely well behaved children in the UK. Unfortunately they are becoming rarer and rarer these days and that is a fact.

My husband and I commented just the other day that we ought to get a move on and "breed" (dog joke) as we have a responsibility to help eradicate the unruly population by raising nice, well behaved children!

I judge each case on it's own merit. The child that Esme encountered sounds like she was being molly coddled by her Mother, which is never a good idea imo. The children others have commented on sound hideous and vile and have clearly learnt no respect to other living creatures which is also bad.

Hope that makes as much sense typed out as it did in my head ;o)

yes of course some are nice kids, i just dont like kids.

I wont run one over, but i dont like them.

A good friend of mine has a child with a dog phobia. He is eight and goes straight into panic mode when approached by a dog. It's not funny and he isn't mollycoddled. I don't mean to offend anyone, but unless you have lived with a phobia, you don't understand. They do come round to our house, and I leave the kids in the lounge with the PS2 and my friend, dogs and I retire to the dining room for peace and quiet.

Personally, if my child was dog phobic, I would try to desensitise them, maybe by sitting in on a puppy class at first, or something like that, but he isn't mine and my friend isn't a 'doggy' person, so we compromise. I would never shut my dogs outside for someone though!

I have been in the position where Loki has run up to someone and really frightened them. I know Loki might do this, so I let him off lead in quiet places and put him on where there are kids.

Kids are frightened of dogs for many reasons. My friend's son is frightened because he was (guess what) knocked down by a Boxer on the beach! I do think people should educate their kids and have had one comment when a child said 'look at the doggy' and his dad said 'come away it's got germs on it'. That pi$$ed me off. Doesn't everything have germs on it?

Children are little petri dishes of germs! That would have annoyed me so much.

I'll repeat what I said earlier: children are like puppies and should be socialised at an early age with all kinds of things, dogs included. If my child was knocked over by a bounding dog I would laugh it off and make sure his next encounter was soon and positive.

Of course I do admit that it's easy to say as I don't have children myself, but this is how I think I'd do it.