Breeding from aggresive/bad mother would, you breed her again

just your views
would you breed a bitch again if she was a bad mother and she started to attack her puppies
aven though she was health tested and top show dog and perfect standard for her breed
i ask this as i notice a lot of breeders still breed from these bitches and hand rear there puppies
but isnt that a bad trait to the temperment to the dog
she might be ok with children and adults
but is it wise to breed her again
and that dont you think her off spring would deve;lope temperment problams in the future as the dam do,s teah her off spring a lot and if they are hand reared they lost all that teaching

I wouldn't do it JMO it would be awful if she killed a pup or even worse more than one, if you knew she was a bad mother and did it anyway then pups die ,,,,,,,,, nope sorry could not cope with that, my 3 year old bitch had her first litter in the summer and I had to hand rear from around 9 / 10 days old but dont consider her a bad mother, she had been scanned with 4 and we thought poss 7 this would IMO be an ample litter for her first, she had 11 all weighing in at 1lb to 1lb 4oz she was great for the first week, then got very sore due to the constant suckling if they cant find a teat they latch on to skin between the teats and suck that untill it looks like a blood filled blister, then when the gums began to harden and little gnashers began to erupt it all got to much for her, she would go in regularly to try to feed but it was just so uncomfortable for her that she would be back out in a few min and with the pups being huge and as it was one of the hottest summers I can remember I had to make the choice of take a chance or step in and bottle feed, they could not get enough from her so I took over, at 10 days old, and have got to admit I was a woman on the edge after the first 4 days after the first week to knackered to care, think of 11 babies to bottle feed, wind, but they are semi mobile and you cant put a nappy on them,.
dont blame her as it was a big litter but if I took another and she did it again I would not breed her again, for my sake

I wouldn't breed from her either, pups need mums milk and the socialisation mum teaches them.

Personally no. It's unfair on the bitch and her offspring not to mention the heartache that the owner would go through if she killed the pup(s)

I wouldn't breed from a bitch or a dog that had a bad temperament full stop. I certainly wouldn't breed from a bitch a second time around if she turned out to be a bad mother - it's not fair on her or the puppies. The temperament of a puppy is not always about how well socialised they are by 'Mum' the breeder also plays a huge part in the early stages of a puppies life depending on what level of care and attention the breeder is willing to put in breeding from a dog with temperamental issues certainly does not mean the pups will turn out the same way..even so in my opinion it still shouldn't be done

Hi crazycockers,
Do you think I should not breed from tegan again? all in all she wasnt bad even after I began bottle feeding, she still took time to go in and clean them, play, and so on, Do you think it would be the same next time, she never hurt a pup or even nipped one and she did get very sore, even with all my attempts to keep her teats intact, one at the back was very sore, bleeding and so on, It was more like a litter of Aligators than pups,
I have not made any plans for another litter still in recovery but I had hoped at some point to take one more from her,
thanks shona

I think there's two areas here. No I would not breed from a bitch that has in general a bad temperament all the time.
Would I have a second litter from a bitch that wasn't good the first time round but normally had a cracking temperament. Difficult one to call. I know someone who had a terrible time with her first litter. The normally good natured bitch was aggressive towards the pups, more scared than anything and didn't take to the pups until they were around three weeks old when they were a little bigger. The second time, she was a fantastic mom. She had gained the confidence. I think it needs to be looked at sensibly and judge your own dog. Socially both litters were absolutely lovely pups whether they were bottle fed or fed by the mom. Lot's of pups have to be handraised for different reasons, it's not ideal but the pups have still thrived.
Not all bitches make the perfect mothers, same as in most species. That's where we come in to help them.

That's a completely different case, I've had to hand rear two litters (both from the same mum) I certainly wouldn't breed from her again! My vet said it wouldn't happen twice WRONG!!

It's a chance you have to take, my girl also did the cleaning, slept with them, even let them suckle from her even though she didn't have any milk, she was red raw sore but she wanted to be a good mum, and she was, she just didn't have any milk.

She hasn't got a nasty bone in her body, I would never breed from an unsound dog health or temperament.

Thanks crazycockers. Guess I will just have to wait and see, If it happend again I think I would not take another litter form her, prob even if she reared them well I will not take another my older bitch is 5 and has had one litter and if I dont take one from her in the next year she prob will not have another, with all the stuff going on with the docking ban there is a good chance I wont breed as I dont know how its going to work out, many may not want a rott with a tail, there has been so many litters being bread to beat the ban there are more than enough pups out there already, with some even using the ban as a way of cashing in, ads like last chance for a docked pup. and so on.,so sad

if she normally has a super temperment i would look closer into why she attacked her puppies ......was she stressed ? afraid of something etc...