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13-06-2011, 02:53 PM
Originally Posted by SRS Scotland View Post
i know what your getting at and the sentiment is good, however I think people think that they give their wee dog up because its not getting the attention etc since babies arrival or whatever, that its going to be so much better off ... however in the case at present with too many dogs not enough homes and lots of pounds PTS especially bull breeds, this simply isnt the case. So many great natured animals are put to sleep because people just take the easy route.

They kid themselves on that their lovely dog is sittiong in a warm home somewhere but in actual fact its languishing in kennels or worse.
I also agree with what you are saying, but the fact is, that peopel can be fickle, in all aspects of life, and dogs are not immune to it, ofcause there are to many dogs in rescue , and the reasons will be 100fold, and some will end up in good forever homes , and many wont, but solving that problem is something I dont know the answer too, if we all kept the dogs we have, it would go a way to do it, but thats never going to happen.

Originally Posted by Ben Mcfuzzylugs View Post
so its perfectly OK for someone to get a dog knowing full well in the next couple of years they plan to have kids and will get rid of the dog? Cos they have space in their lives now and for the next couple of years for a dog??

and then of course it might not end up in a loving home, it could get passed on to 6 different homes before getting put to sleep in a rescue

yes of course the owners should ALSO be making sure that they are the best home they can be for the dog - not dumping it in a garage

If someone doesn't have the time to commit to the lifetime of a dog then why not foster or offer to help neighbours out with their dogs

tbh I think it is a sad reflection on society in general, get what we want right now with no thought for the future and just dump it when bored

people should do that with kids too
have a baby then when it dosent fit in with their lifestyle have it adopted - cos a STABLE home dosent matter - just a loving one for the moment


sorry this is a forum for dog lovers - so I will continue to condem people who treat dogs as disposable commodities
Who said it was OK, but then it depends on your view point doesn't it.. so many people dont see it as you or I do and its as simple as that.


I may not agree with people disposing of their dogs, but I dont condemn them, I just see it differently, as long as no cruelly is involved ofcause,t hen I would feel differently.

Yes its a dog forum, and yes we all love dogs, but that doesn't mean you have to condemn something you would not do yourself.

Lets not forget those who have benefited from others rehoming their dogs, they may see it differently too.
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13-06-2011, 03:37 PM
Originally Posted by Jackbox View Post
I also agree with what you are saying, but the fact is, that peopel can be fickle, in all aspects of life, and dogs are not immune to it, ofcause there are to many dogs in rescue , and the reasons will be 100fold, and some will end up in good forever homes , and many wont, but solving that problem is something I dont know the answer too, if we all kept the dogs we have, it would go a way to do it, but thats never going to happen.



Who said it was OK, but then it depends on your view point doesn't it.. so many people dont see it as you or I do and its as simple as that.


I may not agree with people disposing of their dogs, but I dont condemn them, I just see it differently, as long as no cruelly is involved ofcause,t hen I would feel differently.

Yes its a dog forum, and yes we all love dogs, but that doesn't mean you have to condemn something you would not do yourself.

Lets not forget those who have benefited from others rehoming their dogs, they may see it differently too.
I guess we just look at things differently, if someone does something I strongly disagree with then I will condem them for it
Would any GOOD breeder be happy to sell a puppy to someone who wasnt planning to do their best by the pup for the full of the pups life?


and as both my dogs are rescues you could say I have benefited from other peoples neglect - but it dosent mean I wouldnt prefer for there to be no dogs in rescue
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13-06-2011, 04:02 PM
Originally Posted by Ben Mcfuzzylugs View Post
I guess we just look at things differently, if someone does something I strongly disagree with then I will condem them for it

There are many things I would condemn peopel for, cruelty and neglect being a couple of them, as rehoming a dog is neither its not not high on my condemnation list, I may think they are fickle or simply not agree, but thats about it.



Would any GOOD breeder be happy to sell a puppy to someone who wasnt planning to do their best by the pup for the full of the pups life?


A good breeder will have back up (take the pups back) in place for exactly that reason, they cant see into the future or see individual's circumstances, they will do all they can to ensure their babies go to the correct homes, but should be astute enough to realise life is never simply black or white.


and as both my dogs are rescues you could say I have benefited from other peoples neglect - but it dosent mean I wouldnt prefer for there to be no dogs in rescue
Moving a dog on to rescue or a private home is NOT neglect!!
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13-06-2011, 04:24 PM
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We got our 2 dogs because the consultant advised the previous owners to rehome ALL animals. Their new-born baby was very ill though and had a 7 hour lung operation so I think there are some genuine cases.
but was the consultant an animal hater? some just say it coz they believe its for the best, personal opinion outweights actual needs. eg cancer paitents for example being told to get rid of any pets due to needing a sterile environment. yet my mum kept her indoor cat when my sister was diagnosed at 3, also a friend of mine was advised to get shut of her yorkie she didnt and is doing fine.

I think medics need to weigh up all the options and not just have a knee jerk reaction to get rid of the animals.

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13-06-2011, 04:43 PM
I've been waiting for someone to post this, that did the rounds a while ago.

You never see it do you


MUST RE-HOME due to new addition to family. After two long years of being on a waiting list for a special German Shepherd dog, we have been notified by the breeder that, at long last, our number has come up and WE ARE HAVING A PUPPY!!!

We must get rid of our children IMMEDIATELY because we just know how time consuming our new little puppy is going to be and it just wouldn't be fair to the children. Since our little puppy will be arriving on Monday we MUST place the children this weekend!

They are described as:

One male - His name is Tommy, Caucasian (English/Irish mix), light blonde hair, blue eyes. Four years old. Excellent disposition! He doesn't bite, is temperament tested, does have problems with peeing directly in the toilet. Has had Chicken Pox and is current on all shots. Tonsils have already been removed. Tommy eats everything, is very clean, house trained & gets along well with others. Does not run with scissors and with a little training he should be able to read soon.

One female - Her name is Lexie, Caucasian (English/Irish mix), strawberry blonde hair, green eyes quite freckled. Two years old. She can be surly at times, is a non-biter, thumb sucker. Has been temperament tested but needs a little attitude adjusting occasionally. She is current on all shots, tonsils out, and is very healthy & can be affectionate. Gets along well with other little girls & little boys but does not like to share her toys and therefore would do best in a one child household. She is a very quick learner and is currently working on her house training - shouldn't take long at all.

We really do LOVE our children so much and want to do what's right for them; that is why we contacted a rescue group. But we simply can no longer keep them. Also, we are afraid that they may hurt our new puppy.

I hope you understand that ours is a UNIQUE situation and we have a real emergency here!!! They MUST be placed in rescue by Sunday night at the latest or we will be forced to drop them off at the orphanage or along some dark, country road. Our priority now has to be our new puppy."
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13-06-2011, 04:52 PM
I must say that on previous post that there is some evidence that having an animal when ill works really well at reducing stress,what a shame some consultants,nidwives etc jump to conclusions.I think that it all depends on your view of your animals,for me personnally and was bougt up this way,my animals are part of my family and some days are better then others,and i had a collie who was my best friend when i had my first child and through assurance and trust of me it never,ever was an issue,as is the same now,its about knowing that animals and humans,big or small have off moments and are not always going to be on there best behaviour,but there faults are yours and together you could all be happy,and growing up with a dog is so rewarding and balancing for kids,a playmate,a companion,,i dont know,ive never understood why get a pet and then give it up,trust me there are days when giving up my collie would be great,lol,but shes my dilinguent and we have to work together,dont get a pet unless you are keeping it forever.Look at huskies in there native homes,they would sleep with the babies to protect and keep them warm,why is stuff like this so easily forgotten and the dogs are treated as if there guilty even before they go near a baby......
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13-06-2011, 05:00 PM
sister has two kids, 1 at 18 months and 1 4 months, she was told she should get rid of her dogs by the health visitor, she told her to get stuffed
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13-06-2011, 05:21 PM
i had an allergy specialist tell me prior to any tests being taken that it was DEFINETLY the dog that was setting off my sons skin....

I had to laugh when the results came back negative and was in fact a dairy allergy which I had said all along.....

the dog would have been wrapped in clingfilm round my son than rehome him !! LOL
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13-06-2011, 05:27 PM
Both my mum & myself have allergies - should we get rid of the dogs AND the cats to make life easier for ourselves & save a fortune on antihistamines, decongestants & anti itch cream????? Of course its worse now in this weather

I think my mum says it very well - "Its their home as well & here they'll stay" - now if only everyone took that attitude instead of the easy way out
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13-06-2011, 05:33 PM
It's very unlikely I can have kids - but one of the reasons I got the dog (having previously been a resolute cat person) was that I wanted any child of mine to grow up WITH dogs in their life.

I couldn't love, care for and laugh with my dog - then throw him away if miracles ever did happen and I could carry a pregnancy to term - he's part of the family, same as the very cantankerous demanding cat who is really hard work and who many would have given up on.

You just don't throw away family members like that. No one who does that will ever be a friend of mine - and yet, they act like they're worthy of some kind of round of applause, as if turning from a dog-owner into some dog-hating "it could be a child next" anti-dog zealot makes them a better person and worthy of praise.
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