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Tessabelle
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21-01-2010, 10:53 AM

Confused about puppy jabs!

I am hoping to get some clarification on my puppy's jabs.

Bentley had his first jab, before we got him at age 9 weeks. At age 12 weeks we took him to our vet for the next jab and he was given a different type of vaccine. He just had another jab yesterday, age 15 weeks.

I have read that he should have 3 jabs (not two as I had previously been told) up to the age of 16 weeks and then a booster jab a year from now. Is this correct and is Bentley covered as he has had three jabs but 2 different vaccines?

We are really keen to socialise him asap as he is a Jack Russell and I am not sure when we are able to start walking him? We are quite lucky in that we live on army base in Germany and therefore everyone has to have their dog's jabs up todate but I still don't want to risk him catching something.... The lady we got him from had three pet dogs of her own that he was raised with and I am wondering if this will help his immunity?

He also had his first Rabies jab yesterday so don't want to start walking him of his immune system has taken a real beating!

Hope someone can help!
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21-01-2010, 12:31 PM
This is very confusing since many vet don't like to admit the early immunizations are often useless. There is a good explanation from a reliable source at http://www.avma.org/animal_health/br...o_brochure.asp It is specific to parvo, but other things work the same.

The period between 6-12 weeks is a dangerous time. One sniff where a sick dog relieved itself in the last 6 months can bring on parvo or another life threatening disease. Fail to expose it to strangers, including men, women, children, noise, etc. and you could end up with a misfit you can't take out in public. They also need continuing contact with other dogs, but it must be limited to ones you know are getting good care. For ways to safely socialize your puppy, see http://www.apdt.com/po/news/docs/Messer_Nov06.pdf
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21-01-2010, 02:46 PM
Hi Tessa welcome to Dogsey . Different countries have different vaccination regimes, we don't have rabies in the UK so the rabies vaccine is not routinely given here.

Here puppies are usually vaccinated around eight weeks when the passive immunity provided by the dam's milk has diminished. This is usually followed by another vaccination a couple of weeks later.
The best person to ask about any concerns is your vet.

Even if your puppy is unable to walk on the ground for a few days following vaccination you can still carry him around to experience different sights and sounds and to meet people. Also going out in the car is good.
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21-01-2010, 05:33 PM
If a vaccine takes, it may be up to 2 weeks before it has time to build immunity. So you need to be very careful for far more than a couple of days.
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21-01-2010, 06:34 PM
All my dogs are titre tested before vaccination & one never needed to be vaccinated as his titre levels meant it would actually be counter-productive for him ever to have been vaccinated(not rabies of course as he was in the UK & this was pre Pet Travel Scheme). My dogs are never vaccinated after the puppy ones(if needed)they are titre tested on a regular basis

It is very important that your puppy has lots of human contact & gets out & about seeing the big outside world, right now & at least being small you can carry him around. Our vets always advise a week after vaccinations before the puppy goes out on the ground. The immunologists at Glasgow told me that older dogs are at more risk from the puppy than the puppy is from them, whilst it is shedding the antibodies if the older dogs have any immune deficiency.

Forgot to add dogs over 13 weeks of age only need one rabies vaccination not two

Nobivac Rabies: Dosage and administration




Nobivac Rabies
Dosage and administration
A single dose inoculation of 1 ml is sufficient irrespective of size, species or breed of animal. Sterile equipment should be used for administration. Avoid contamination of vaccine with traces of chemical sterilising agents. Do not use chemicals such as disinfectant or spirit to disinfect the skin prior to inoculation.

Primary course and booster vaccination:
Dogs & cats
Primary vaccination age*

3 months or older
Booster vaccination

every 3 years
Route of administration intramuscularly or subcutaneously
* Primary vaccination may be administered at an earlier age (minimum in dogs and cats of 4 weeks of age), but then a repeat vaccination must be given at the age of 3 months.
Can be used during pregnancy in dogs.
& they also need only one puppy vax over 10 weeks of age
Nobivac DHP: Dosage and administration
Vaccination regime
Primary course vaccination
A single injection should establish active immunity in dogs of 10 weeks of age or older. Where earlier protection is required a first dose may be given to puppies from 6 weeks of age, but because maternally derived passive antibody can interfere with the response to vaccination a final dose should be given 2–4 weeks later i.e. at 10 weeks of age or older.
Booster vaccination
To maintain protection a single booster dose is recommended every three years.
The product can be used in pregnant bitches which have previously been vaccinated with Nobivac DHPPi, Nobivac DHP, Nobivac PPi, Nobivac Parvo-C.
The above is from the NOAH site
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29-01-2010, 11:21 PM
A puppy's immune system is not fully developed until 4 mths old. Given that vaccines do not give 100% protection and in some instances actually cause the disease itself in the host since live viruses are injected (this is a scientific fact that a percentage will catch the disease from the vaccine), I believe it is better to build natural health and immunity from a healthy diet and no toxin health care than rely on unreliable vaccines so I don't vaccinate at all, I am careful in the early months and none of my 7 dogs have ever caught anything whatsoever.

Anyway, if you must vaccinate, Christie Keith offers a very balanced voice of reason:-

http://www.caberfeidh.com/PuppyVax.htm
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