Christmas present Ideas- suggestions needed

Well Christmas is getting closer and I havent a clue what to get my two? Just looking for ideas if anyone has any?

Kyle is 17 and has everything I can think of really- his own telly/hifi/ Dvd/surround sound system/jewellery/loads of decent clobber etc- no ideas whatsoever for him

Josh is 12 and also has own telly/vid/hifi etc
He wants a Mini Moto but Id rather wait til we moved and had a garage etc before I get one.

I cant think of anything and need to get a move on

Oh Lel join the club

I can't think of anything for Thomas and he's 4!

how about a PC that they can share, or 2 second hand ones
they can go on the net and leave you in Peace !!! bliss got my son one for his birthday pressie and he loves it

we do have a PC upstairs actually- just needs to get internet connection- plus my two cant SHARE anything - its like world war 8 whenever they are together

What about an electric skateboard?

lol lucy just wants money this year so ill do her a stocking which will still cost a fortune and then give her some wads!!I miss the excitement of xmas like when she was little though now, so make the most of your little ones!!

yeh candie we were saying that last night

really miss the kids getting all excited over xmas
they don,t no more

Awww guy's I'll video my little pair for yer xmas day how's that

please nae

If no vid will piccies do instead?