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17-01-2010, 11:01 PM
Originally Posted by Ben Mcfuzzylugs 
I voted for working
From the breeds I have seen both of
Labs, Show labs far to stocky for me with giant heads and tend to get v fat, working dogs (I have seen) darker coat, leaner build with lots of muscle
Spanials - most types - Show ones have far to much coat - the standard is supposed to preserve the ability to work but these dogs have a coat that would need to much work - and the ear set makes them look a bit dim
Opps - sorry I will stop now
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17-01-2010, 11:03 PM
Originally Posted by labradork
Naww, his weight looks perfect IMO. Don't forget that Labs should have no tuck up.
Either way, bloomin' lovely dog. Has one major fault though..........it ain't Yellow!
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18-01-2010, 10:15 AM
Originally Posted by mishflynn
This is my Ideal Working Lines /ISDS looking Dog
http://www.herding-dog-training-bord...om/pics007.htm
Look at his Intensity & Hes so Handsome!
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18-01-2010, 10:17 AM
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18-01-2010, 10:19 AM
Originally Posted by labradork
Fully field trial bred Labrador:
Fully show bred American and English Champion:
Quite shocking really. They look like entirely different breeds. I can't even recognize the first dog as a purebred Lab as it derives so far from the breed type.
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18-01-2010, 10:35 AM
Originally Posted by Moobli
Have to say, from those two examples, I much prefer the second dog - but could it work as well as the first? Surely there is a split because people want different things from their dogs? The working line suit the keepers etc and the show type are better suited to pet and show ring. I can't see things ever changing and even though it would be lovely to think that all breeds would one day be dual purpose, I don't really think it matters too much in the scheme of things.
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18-01-2010, 11:30 AM
Originally Posted by Moobli
Have to say, from those two examples, I much prefer the second dog - but could it work as well as the first? Surely there is a split because people want different things from their dogs? The working line suit the keepers etc and the show type are better suited to pet and show ring. I can't see things ever changing and even though it would be lovely to think that all breeds would one day be dual purpose, I don't really think it matters too much in the scheme of things.
Many Show Labrador kennels work their dogs perfectly well in the UK these days, there are also more Show ESS kennels that take their dogs shooting. These dogs, as Dawn has said, are always the less exaggerated types which does allow them to do what they were bred for.
As I've always said, if you breed to better the breed (which for me would include looking at both the breed standard and the dogs particular field of work), rather than breeding to better your own ego then dog breeds would be far better off IMO! For me the "serious" working people and the "serious" show people are equally to blame in most cases when it comes to breeding poor examples of a particular breed!
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18-01-2010, 02:08 PM
I'm afraid i just don't like the way SOME of the showline gsds are built (for lack of better description)
DOn't get me wrong - some of them are really nice but i'm fairly biased as my lad is working stock.
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18-01-2010, 02:39 PM
Originally Posted by Ripsnorterthe2nd
What are you trying to say????
LOL Ben does that dooohhh look
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