really? i find the long coats(that i know) are mainly bred by byb's and defo not for a specific purpose such obedience

maybe shes thinking about the south Manchester affix she seems to know lol a mix of lines keeping the vets in employment

Flame came from obedience lines - she is Foxfold/Sorumour.

I adore my girlie, but I wouldn't want another from these obedience lines, simply because my "tastes" have changed over the years.

I didn't say long coats have been bred for obedience....read the other post b4 that! Having said that there are a lot of long coats in obedience as oppose to short coats.

Oh and Smokeybear...don't make pathetic comments saying "goodbye" everyone is entitled to their own opinion....but keep the sly digs to the original subject.

I do not need to make sly digs, in fact you are the only one doing this on this thread Kizzy

You are the one making pathetic comments about things you know little about, by your own admisision.

I see you are yet another "Frank Sinatra", your "farewell tours" are not genuine and neither do they generate the response you and similar posters would like

You said you had no more interest in this thread, so why are you still here?

I know more than enough about the things Ive said....proof is literally in the pudding

I am still here because I wont have people no matter how old you are slagging me off on a thread that clearly you know little about.

How many Shepherds have you owned??

You do make me laugh Michelle, and you bring a lot of amusement to many others as well.

yeah no one seems to want to step up and answer my questions...you included. How many shepherds have you owned??

You do make me laugh, thank you.

Not many then