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annspot80
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27-01-2010, 11:09 AM

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I have bought my dog from devon, and the lady was breeding other dogs there - alsatians, labradoodles, so i class this as a kennel and not a home enviroment.
My dog has always been very scared of people, even scared of us when we picked him up.
Is this how dogs react when they come from kennels.
I would like your views if you have aquired dogs from that enviroment, as it doesn't look like they socialize them well - is this the case?
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27-01-2010, 11:13 AM
It probably is the case in the kennels you got your dog from, but lots of puppies are reared in kennels, as you say its the socialisation and human that makes all the difference.

Work as hard as you can, you can achieve a lot with time and patience.
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27-01-2010, 11:20 AM
Hi,

BD is right. In kennels they tend to get less contact with other dogs, humans etc so they don't know how to react when they come facwe to face with something new.

Keep working hard with your new pup and persevere. Don't ever give up and in just a short time you'll begin to see imrpovement.

Don't try to do too much in one go. Take your time and allow your pup to get used to things before moving onto to bigger stuff.

Try not to overload him so he doesn't have to take in too much at once.

In time, you pup will grow into a loving, happy, healthy, dog who will no doubt drive you absolutely nuts. But that's the best bit!

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27-01-2010, 07:15 PM
Originally Posted by annspot80 View Post
I have bought my dog from devon, and the lady was breeding other dogs there - alsatians, labradoodles, so i class this as a kennel and not a home enviroment.
My dog has always been very scared of people, even scared of us when we picked him up.
Is this how dogs react when they come from kennels.
I would like your views if you have aquired dogs from that enviroment, as it doesn't look like they socialize them well - is this the case?
The term you are looking for is "Puppy Farm" and they are best avoided at all costs.
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28-01-2010, 10:12 AM
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The term you are looking for is "Puppy Farm" and they are best avoided at all costs.
the breeder i got him from was an kc accredited breeder, and she showed me lots of certificates, and she has alot of dogs for stud in the kennel club website, so it is not a puppy farm - i know what one of those is, and would never buy from them, but thanks for your reply.
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28-01-2010, 10:26 AM
Originally Posted by Borderdawn View Post
It probably is the case in the kennels you got your dog from, but lots of puppies are reared in kennels, as you say its the socialisation and human that makes all the difference.

Work as hard as you can, you can achieve a lot with time and patience.
Both Rio and Dan are from kennels (the same one). I got Rio at eight weeks old and she is fine, I got Dan at 16 weeks old and he is nervous. I am working hard to socialise him but it's a slow (and sometimes frustrating) process. The breeder does her best for the pups and they adapted to house living straight away. They were very well socialised with other dogs and Dan is fine with most women, but he didn't meet a lot of men in those early days so men still scare him a bit. The thing he really isn't improving much with so far is bikes and prams and other wheeled objects. I'm going to buy a bike though and leave it in the hall so he can get used to it. He's emotionally very immature and at 12 months old sometimes acts like a much younger pup, but I think that's just his personality. I'm hoping that with perserverance he will improve over the coming months, but am aware it could take a year or two.

Just keep working with your pup but remember it is a slow process. Do you take him to any training classes?
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28-01-2010, 11:00 AM
Originally Posted by annspot80 View Post
the breeder i got him from was an kc accredited breeder, and she showed me lots of certificates, and she has alot of dogs for stud in the kennel club website, so it is not a puppy farm - i know what one of those is, and would never buy from them, but thanks for your reply.
Just because the dogs are KC registered doesn't indicate they are quality; anyone can register with the KC. I would honestly have to question someone breeding multiple breeds that are that are not related to each other in any way such as Labradoodles, Dalmatians, etc. Normally those types are only in it for the money, I'm sorry to say.

As for your question, I have two pups from a kenneled environment (from gundog kennels) that have wonderful temperaments. Not scared or nervous of anything, confident, out going, etc. I personally wouldn't have a pup that I could see was nervous from the beginning as I would have to question how well socialized that pup was or not.
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28-01-2010, 01:13 PM
Originally Posted by annspot80 View Post
the breeder i got him from was an kc accredited breeder, and she showed me lots of certificates, and she has alot of dogs for stud in the kennel club website, so it is not a puppy farm - i know what one of those is, and would never buy from them, but thanks for your reply.
That means nothing I am afraid! except that they paid the money to be in the accredited breeder scheme...

Labradoodles aren't KC reg they are mongrels with fancy names..

THis is an out and out puppy farm in my book..

So can you please tell us what your version of a puppy farm is??
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28-01-2010, 03:32 PM
i agree with the others, i definitely think you bought from a puppy farm.
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28-01-2010, 03:59 PM
i totally disagree with what some of you have said.
My puppy has not come from a 'farm'. Most of these places won't let you see the mother or the father, they don't have any paperwork for any dogs, they will not allow you to bring the dog back if there is found to be something wrong with it within 3 days of purchase, and these places tend to be very dirty and isolated.
This place was clean, the dogs in good condition, seen both mum and dad, i had a look inside her house and seen other puppies, everything seems to be fine. She was a lovely lady who goes by the name of risdon farm - puppy farms do not advertise big, and we had a good lengthy discussion before we had him - i don't think she had anything to hide, unlike puppy farms.
He probably did miss out on some socializing hence being a little scared, but im sure he will come out of it and he is presently going to puppy classes to help with the all round situation.
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