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02-02-2011, 05:19 PM
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I suppose I'm trying to clarify what I think. Most rehoming centres wouldn't rehome to someone out at work all day - and neither would a responsible breeder. But someone who's out just part time - that's different.

I guess I think it's fine for an emergency or as morganstar says, someone who's out just a couple of days a week - socialisation, all the rest of it... And of course unforeseen things happen in life to all of us, that we couldn't know when we bought a dog or rehomed it.... That's not what bothers me about it.

What I still don't get, is why anyone would knowingly get a dog fully aware they were out 5 days a week, and whether these facilities existing encourages people who are out all week, to buy a dog? Also (just curious) are the ones that go to such places day in day out (apart from those during say a family breakdown) - just fashion accesory dogs? Who'd take on a dog knowing they're hardly at home?
I know lots of rescues who will rehome to fulltime workers who have considered/arranged daytime care, e.g. daycare or dog walkers. And I'm a fulltime worker myself who's adopted a dog from a rescue, knowing I'm out 5 days a week. Why did I do it? Well, I work 8 hours a day, and say for example I sleep 8 hours a day - that still leaves me 8 hours to spend with my dogs! Do all part-time workers or unemployed people spend 24 hours a day with their dogs? I doubt it. The fact that I work means I'm more aware of the need to interact with the dogs when I'm at home, they still get daily walks, and at the weekend we can have nice extra long walks to make up for it. If I was at home or part-time then I probably wouldn't have the petrol money to take them to new places so what they'd gain in my company, they'd lose in mental stimulation of new walking routes! Not to mention that when I am home, they mostly sleep anyway - when I've been ill or off on holiday, they don't really interact with me that much more. We might squeeze in an extra daytime walk but that's a bonus for them, not a daily need, so I don't think my dogs suffer from me being out all day (obviously, if OH didn't have the work schedule he does, I'd consider a dog walker or at least someone popping in to let them out to wee and stretch their legs, but I'm lucky in that aspect)
As a result of me deciding to adopt a dog whilst working fulltime, two dogs are kept out of rescue and are in a loving home where they get plenty of fuss, a good diet and regular exercise, what's the problem there?
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02-02-2011, 09:08 PM
My point was why did they pursued they family member not to get a dog, if they were prepared to use daycare and wok full time. I don't use it coz mine mace been us to bein left for hours at a time. If you can afford day care great if not dogs adapt
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02-02-2011, 09:20 PM
Oh i think its a great idea!!! If you work just two days in the week instead of the weekends it still allows you to have a dog in your spare time. I don't think its right if your going to be away five days a week the cost of day care would be very expensive but some people do this!!

If your not going to around for more then two days a week whats the point? Your basicly paying for some one else to take of your dog but then again I guess its no different to people with young kids who work full time.
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02-02-2011, 09:24 PM
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If your not going to around for more then two days a week whats the point? Your basicly paying for some one else to take of your dog but then again I guess its no different to people with young kids who work full time.
Even if you work 5 days a week, that's only 40 hours out of 168 in a week - yes, there's sleeping, eating etc. but there's still plenty of time to spend with a dog. I walk at a dog rescue where dogs are in their kennels every day, where 3 walks a week is good going for that week, so a home with a fulltime worker, daily fuss and attention, and regular walks is better than that.
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02-02-2011, 09:33 PM
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Even if you work 5 days a week, that's only 40 hours out of 168 in a week - yes, there's sleeping, eating etc. but there's still plenty of time to spend with a dog. I walk at a dog rescue where dogs are in their kennels every day, where 3 walks a week is good going for that week, so a home with a fulltime worker, daily fuss and attention, and regular walks is better than that.
So your saying a dog can live with someone with a full timer work quite happily?
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02-02-2011, 09:35 PM
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So your saying a dog can live with someone with a full timer work quite happily?
no... two dogs
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02-02-2011, 09:35 PM
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So your saying a dog can live with someone with a full timer work quite happily?
Most defiantly I have three
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02-02-2011, 09:38 PM
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So your saying a dog can live with someone with a full timer work quite happily?
Well, my two seem happy enough! They usually have someone around in the day but OH doesn't have the confidence to walk them on his own (he's never owned a dog himself and two large breeds, one with reactivity issues, is a bit of a challenge!) so he just gives them some company, lets them out to wee and has a few games with them. However, the odd day he has to work a full day, someone (usually me) pops in midday and they're fine. When I am home, they usually just sleep anyway, so presumably they do the same when alone. A dog that goes off to daycare probably has a real blast, if I had a lone dog then I would probably go down the daycare route myself as I wouldn't want to leave a dog solo, but I think my two keep themselves entertained enough at home.
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03-02-2011, 12:48 AM
Originally Posted by BullseyesTail View Post
What I still don't get, is why anyone would knowingly get a dog fully aware they were out 5 days a week, and whether these facilities existing encourages people who are out all week, to buy a dog? Also (just curious) are the ones that go to such places day in day out (apart from those during say a family breakdown) - just fashion accesory dogs? Who'd take on a dog knowing they're hardly at home?
Because dogs can live for anywhere up to 20 years and for lots of people their work commitments will change during this time. Someone might retire early, buy a dog with the intention of spending all their time with them and then, for whatever reason, have to go back to work again. Someone might be a stay at home parent and then break up with their partner and have to go back to working full time. Nothing in life is certain and sometimes these things are unavoidable.

Not to mention that not all of us have the privilege of being able to be at home all the time or being able to work part time but would still like the company of a dog and feel we can offer one a good life. Just because someone is at work doesn't mean they can't offer a dog a comfortable standard of living. I'm out from 9 - 5, 5 days a week and yet my dog is better cared for than the Lab down the road, the Collie round the corner and the two Westies next door - all of which are owned by people who are home all day, every day.

Doggy day cares are a great way for people to make sure their dogs are well cared for when they're not able to be there. I will be putting my dog into one next year when I start uni and will no longer be able to get home to see her at lunch and I have no qualms about doing so.
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03-02-2011, 04:03 AM
The reality is, most people work, and most work full time. Thats an awful lot of people who would be disallowed from owning dogs under your thinking, which means more dogs in shelters and rescues, languishing in kennels or worse, put to sleep. Even if left alone during the day, they still have mornings, evening, weekends, in fact MOST of the day spent with the owner. I wouldn't leave a dog alone for 8 hours, but I'm not going to not have a dog just because I work. I have uitilized doggy day care, dog walkers and stay at home family members as well as bringing my dog to work with me. (she's prefer to stay home or with someone else. When I'm at work, I'm WORKING and don't have time to spend with her)

Its just another service that makes life better for dogs, not sure what the big problem is.
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