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14-03-2011, 10:55 PM
I quite like labradors but tend to avoid them on walks around here! We get A LOT of people who get them because they have a rep for being the perfect family pet. They expect them to just train themselves and naturally be perfect and don't realise that they are a working breed that needs lots of exercise. The result is a lot of fat, hyper labs who go totally nuts when they do actually get walked and have no training or self restraint....but that's fine because "he's friendly!". It's not the dogs fault, it tends to be lazy owners who get them because they think they will automatically be "easy". The lazy owner would never go to a proper breeder....so make that fat, hyper, poorly bred, under exercised labs and you can see why I tend to skirt around them. They are left to belt around at their own devices. Mostly the dogs mean well, they are just totally nuts, but I've met some fairly huffy ones too (I suspect lack of exercise means also lack of socialisation, these labs tend to put up hackles and be defensive). The Lab situation around here makes me sad
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14-03-2011, 11:02 PM
Originally Posted by paulandfloyd View Post
A good pup costs less in the end, it’s advisable to buy the best possible breeding –health checks and all. They all cost the same to feed and keep at the end of the day.

A well bread lab will have been bread to please for generations, and will more or less train its self. It will have no fear of cover or new situations.
Oh my! "well bred" labs. must be special - I have never come across a dog who will more or less train itself (unless you mean train itself in bad habits).
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14-03-2011, 11:11 PM
Thank you! He really, really was. He was well traveled. He was one of the first flights back up and running after 9/11 on his trip to the US from England. He was an English lab, I always used to say that he barked with an English accent!!!
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14-03-2011, 11:45 PM
Originally Posted by Moon's Mum View Post
I quite like labradors but tend to avoid them on walks around here! We get A LOT of people who get them because they have a rep for being the perfect family pet. They expect them to just train themselves and naturally be perfect and don't realise that they are a working breed that needs lots of exercise. The result is a lot of fat, hyper labs who go totally nuts when they do actually get walked and have no training or self restraint....but that's fine because "he's friendly!". It's not the dogs fault, it tends to be lazy owners who get them because they think they will automatically be "easy". The lazy owner would never go to a proper breeder....so make that fat, hyper, poorly bred, under exercised labs and you can see why I tend to skirt around them. They are left to belt around at their own devices. Mostly the dogs mean well, they are just totally nuts, but I've met some fairly huffy ones too (I suspect lack of exercise means also lack of socialisation, these labs tend to put up hackles and be defensive). The Lab situation around here makes me sad



I agree - honestly, almost every Lab in my area is overweight!!!

It's actually got to the point where because my Lab is on the slim side, people constantly assume he 'must be a Lab X' !!!

It's such a shame. People do not realise how energetic young Labs can be and how much exercise they need.
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15-03-2011, 07:03 AM
I have had two Lab crosses in the past, both rescue dogs. Both lovely, excellent temperament and well behaved.

I had always wanted a pure Lab and yes had watched Marley & Me a dozen times. Bruce is almost 11 months now and makes Marley look well behaved.

However Bruce is the most loving, affectionate dog ever. He is completely hyper, but is in no way aggressive towards dogs or people.

When I was young there used to be an enormous yellow Labrador that lived near me. He was very aggressive towards other dogs but ok with people. My husband was bitten by another yellow Lab when he was a child.

There is good and bad in All breeds.

I would have another pure Lab but would definitely work a lot harder on training.

I am looking forward to when Bruce is 5 years old and hopefully started to settle down a but.
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15-03-2011, 08:21 AM
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I would not get a lab as half the people who own them end up blind .
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15-03-2011, 09:59 AM
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There are good and bad with all breeds and Labs are certainly no different. Given the sheer number of them registered each year (which doesn't account for the many thousands that are NOT registered), it isn't surprising we have dogs with less than desirable temperaments cropping up. But again, that is the same with all popular breeds.

True, its such a shame

Another point I should make is, are you actually sure that the dog is a purebred Lab? your average generic black crossbreed can look like your average pet bred Lab. I know, for example, a Cocker Spaniel crossed with a Rottweiler who in fact looks like a quite nicely bred purebred black Labrador. I would have had NO idea if the lady owner had not said, and I was quite floored actually. Then you have all the dogs that ARE Labrador crosses, but because the Lab 'look' tends to dominate (black being the dominant colour gene in most cases), they look purebred. This goes to show that looks can be very deceiving and what you are seeing isn't necessarily a true Labrador.

This one was apparently, but then again who knows out of the free ads, even if it had papers, who can gaurentee they were gunuine, I know what you mean though, I saw a what I thought was a labrador waiting outside a shop (off lead just laying there), talking to the owner she was infact half lab, half collie, very well trained, although they did seem to forget to train her with other dogs...

As for Marley from Marley and Me, Marley was NOT from a good breeder, but a backyard breeder. It has been a long time since I read the book, but from what I can remember, Marley had various phobias (noise related ones I think) and a couple of temperament issues that are NOT typical of a Lab temperament. This was due to both his poor breeding and the fact that his owners were total dog novices who didn't really know what they were doing. John Grogan, the owner of Marley, admitted this himself...they were inexperienced, didn't know what to expect, shouldn't have purchased the puppy from were they did, were flawed by normal puppy behaviour, etc.

So to cut the long story short, Marley is not an example of a typical Labrador but is an example of a non-typical Labrador with an inexperienced handler. You could put any breed of dog from a less than reputable breeder in the place of Marley, with an inexperienced and perhaps naive handler and have exactly the same story.
Must say when I worked at the boarding I met loads of labs, most of them were lovely dogs, the yellows seemed mad, the chocolates mad and hoovers (whenever I spilt dog food a chocolate lab was always let in, they never missed a drop ) the blacks seemed more calmer, but when a aggressive lab came in, it was mostly black labs, one of them even had me pinned up against a wall at one time too, which I don't think should be normal behaviour for a well bred lab.
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15-03-2011, 03:30 PM
Parker was "mugged" yesterday on the heath by a Lab.

He hasn't had his ball for ages as Cherry isn't allowed hers after eye surgery so I took him out for an extra walk on his own and he was just laying down having a rest with his ball placed between his front paws when a yellow Lab came along, stood over him, growled and took his ball! Poor Parker-good job he is a complete wuss and lets "mum" deal with things!

Because I have met so many nice Labs I always thought they were all like this until I met the "one from hell" (a black one) which came up to Cherry and tried to go at her totally unprovoked but I got inbetween them and was shouting at it "NO" very loudly. Found out afterwards it had bitten at least 2 other dogs and knocked someone over and just as she was out of hospital after falling down an escalator! Owner is a complete muppet though-tols him I would report him if I saw it unleashed and unmuzzled and he now puts it on a lead and moves the other way when he sees me coming-good!
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15-03-2011, 03:36 PM
[QUOTE=Fivedogpam;2208051]I have a friend who used to have a black lab cross - he looked exactly like a pure bred black lab (apart from a few white hairs on his chest) but his mum was a collie! [QUOTE]

Purebred labs can have white flashes on their chests too. I always thought they were solid colours only but hubby's last Guide Dog was a fox-red lab with white flash. We questioned if he could be pure-bred due to the white but apparently the Queen's breeding stock of labs have white flashes and they are registered as pedigree.

I know your friend's wasn't pure-bred, just thought I'd pass on something I never knew.

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15-03-2011, 04:16 PM
Louie part lab - didn't meet his dad, his mum was lovely temperament, he's turned out fantastic - but then I have brought him up to be. He is skittish around new people and especially children.

Benjie is thought to have Lab in him - he will try it with any dog, any person and pretty much anything.

It's not just the breed - it's how they are brought up.
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