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04-04-2011, 06:56 PM
Recently, Tai started barking and leaping up down in impatience and anticipation of his forthcoming walk. He has a very strident, deafening bark, and it had to stop. All I did was make him sit, and then stand over him in a very domineering way, pressing my body up against his and telling him firmly "No!" If he carried on barking, I would keep pushing him into him, and if he tried to escape to the sides, I would head him off. It worked a treat, and very quickly. He will still do it when he gets really excited, but will stop instantly when the above tactics are employed!
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04-04-2011, 07:06 PM
i watched it when it was on years and years ago, when i was like 12, but never really followed the techiniques, my first dog was an unruly little so and so, never came back till he wanted to, wouldnt really do anything he didnt want to but seeing as i was the only one in the family who was bothered with him, i loved him to pieces and gave him the best years of his life it never even crossed my mind to use these techniques on him no matter how bad he was. the only thing i used on him, which im ashamed to say now, was a choke chain to stop his pulling. but choke chains seemed the norm then and i didnt know any better, luckily he didnt really pull on it because he was offlead most of the time
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04-04-2011, 07:09 PM
Originally Posted by Gnasher View Post
Recently, Tai started barking and leaping up down in impatience and anticipation of his forthcoming walk. He has a very strident, deafening bark, and it had to stop. All I did was make him sit, and then stand over him in a very domineering way, pressing my body up against his and telling him firmly "No!" If he carried on barking, I would keep pushing him into him, and if he tried to escape to the sides, I would head him off. It worked a treat, and very quickly. He will still do it when he gets really excited, but will stop instantly when the above tactics are employed!
How do you MAKE a dog sit if you are not as physically strong as the dog? Lots of people have large dogs and are petite owners! I think it better to motivate the dog to make it's mind up to perform the right behaviour myself. My dogs choose to obey-I don't MAKE them. I would rather not domineer my dogs personally as I think of it as a relationship in which I make the decisions and there are incentives for them to comply.
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04-04-2011, 07:17 PM
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How do you MAKE a dog sit if you are not as physically strong as the dog? Lots of people have large dogs and are petite owners! I think it better to motivate the dog to make it's mind up to perform the right behaviour myself. My dogs choose to obey-I don't MAKE them. I would rather not domineer my dogs personally as I think of it as a relationship in which I make the decisions and there are incentives for them to comply.
Very easily - I just tell him to sit!!

It is nothing to do with physical size. I actually am a strapping wench of 5' 8", but my daughter is only 5' and she has no trouble controlling Tai and Ben, both who weigh more than she does!

When you have dogs weighing in at 48 kilos, you need to be in control - they have no choice in the matter, I give them the very best food, plenty of exercise off lead, the run of the house, all of my spare time is devoted to them. In return, I expect a reasonable level of obedience. Not automatons, but they both have a reasonable level of recall, are well socialised both with humans and other dogs, and reasonably obedient. I don't believe it is acceptable to allow a big dog like Tai to bark his head off on a lovely Sunday afternoon when our neighbours just over the fence are trying to relax in their garden.
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04-04-2011, 07:18 PM
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i watched it when it was on years and years ago, when i was like 12, but never really followed the techiniques, my first dog was an unruly little so and so, never came back till he wanted to, wouldnt really do anything he didnt want to but seeing as i was the only one in the family who was bothered with him, i loved him to pieces and gave him the best years of his life it never even crossed my mind to use these techniques on him no matter how bad he was. the only thing i used on him, which im ashamed to say now, was a choke chain to stop his pulling. but choke chains seemed the norm then and i didnt know any better, luckily he didnt really pull on it because he was offlead most of the time
Choke chains and Barbara Woodhouse! Ugh!!
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04-04-2011, 07:20 PM
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Choke chains and Barbara Woodhouse! Ugh!!
yeah i know he arrived with it, i took him off a horrid couple when i was 12. have to say he had a normal collar and lead not long after, and i gave him the best years of his life hes an old man now so doesnt get his walks like he used to, just glad i made him a happy dog
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04-04-2011, 07:21 PM
Recently, Tai started barking and leaping up down in impatience and anticipation of his forthcoming walk. He has a very strident, deafening bark, and it had to stop. All I did was make him sit, and then stand over him in a very domineering way, pressing my body up against his and telling him firmly "No!" If he carried on barking, I would keep pushing him into him, and if he tried to escape to the sides, I would head him off. It worked a treat, and very quickly. He will still do it when he gets really excited, but will stop instantly when the above tactics are employed!

I just sit on the sofa if that happens, the dogs soon learn that out of control behaviour = boredom, and quiet focus = going out.

Dogs learn by cause and effect, and beside I am FAR too lazy to do all that work!

Plus with one of my dogs, this approach would not be very wise...............
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04-04-2011, 07:23 PM
Originally Posted by Gnasher View Post
Recently, Tai started barking and leaping up down in impatience and anticipation of his forthcoming walk. He has a very strident, deafening bark, and it had to stop. All I did was make him sit, and then stand over him in a very domineering way, pressing my body up against his and telling him firmly "No!" If he carried on barking, I would keep pushing him into him, and if he tried to escape to the sides, I would head him off. It worked a treat, and very quickly. He will still do it when he gets really excited, but will stop instantly when the above tactics are employed!
Faced with the same situation I simply took my coat off put the leash down and sat down to read a book for a couple of minutes before trying again. Took 3 repetitions before Rupert got the message. So far no reminders have been needed and this was done at least 6 years ago.
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04-04-2011, 07:44 PM
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Whose bright idea was that? There was a woman on the first ones who used aversives - was it her|?
no it was a bloke with really short grey hair. the woman was working with a english bull terrior im sure she was using a shock collar
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04-04-2011, 07:50 PM
Originally Posted by smokeybear View Post
Recently, Tai started barking and leaping up down in impatience and anticipation of his forthcoming walk. He has a very strident, deafening bark, and it had to stop. All I did was make him sit, and then stand over him in a very domineering way, pressing my body up against his and telling him firmly "No!" If he carried on barking, I would keep pushing him into him, and if he tried to escape to the sides, I would head him off. It worked a treat, and very quickly. He will still do it when he gets really excited, but will stop instantly when the above tactics are employed!

I just sit on the sofa if that happens, the dogs soon learn that out of control behaviour = boredom, and quiet focus = going out.

Dogs learn by cause and effect, and beside I am FAR too lazy to do all that work!

Plus with one of my dogs, this approach would not be very wise...............
Yeah, my dogs were barking at dogs outside the gate
I called them in and gave them a treat
Now when they see something they want to bark at they come in to get a treat - I dont have to move, or body block or do any work
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