Unfortunately every vet we see comes up with as much as try another food Basically, they seem stumped! I think he could try EVERY single food on the market and they would still say that!

Drat - that's not helpful is it. I think that our vet will be helpful, but it will be tailored to Jimmi and therefore probably not totally useful for you or VB

I have heard of many dogs who have allergies to a cooked meat, but manage perfectly well on that same meat raw because of how the cooking changes the meat. I guess it must be just as possible for it to work the other way around, and for a dog to handle the cooked version better than the raw.

I'm wondering if it might be worth a go but at the same time worried about the risk....I wouldn't do it right now anyway as he has this chest infection. But for future it is perhaps something I should consider with him.

Yes it can which is why keeping your vet up to date with what your doing is important

Discussions here with like minded people are informative & helpful, we can learn from each other

It should be noted however the needs of puppies & young dogs are different - the diet we have talked about here are for adults only

Dobermann: Red meats can be harder for some dogs to digest, have you ever tried cut the "reds" out completely. Compensate with poultry, rabbit, fish, tripe etc?

Do you think there may be a connection with the lamb fat rather than the lamb meat.
Mince will have a varying amounts of fat in it.
Do you exclude any of the fat after cooking the lamb mince.
Just an eliminating thought because lamb fat is very saturated fat and can be hard to digest.

True - Harv had very bad reaction to Lamb based kibble.

Turkey or rabbit mince leaner

Can you point me to where I said it does? You asked about raw, so I answered.

I don’t mean this to be rude, but I would never take dietary advice from a vet.

Cooking does alter or destroy it, it just depends how much it is cooked that depends how much it is changed. Which is why it can be difficult to know what has been destroyed/altered, and what has not, and also to what extent. I have never heard that about long green beans.

How can nature be imbalanced? Do you ever wonder if lions, wolves, tigers etc have an imbalanced diet?

Again, I wouldn’t take nutritional advice from a vet.

Yes, discussions are informative and helpful. All I tried to do was answer a query you had about whether it is a balanced diet, and I gave you an answer, which I specifically said it was MY OPINION (for the most part). Which i always do nowadays on here, because of the replies you get back if you don't emphasise the I's and My's… yet, your reply seems very on the defensive, and you have bit back with asking about the diet I feed my dog… I don’t even know why I bothered to try and help, at least I know not to for next time.

He digests it fine but then had the cysts show up again. He is fine when fed no beef at all, then it seemed that lamb may be an issue so I now have my doubts as to whether he can eat red meat at all really. However noticed a cooked low fat piece of lamb does not seem to bring them up.
If he eats cooked lamb fat it basically ends in 'the squits' yet if he eats raw lamb fat he digests it fine. Thats why I am wondering about whether there is something in particular about red meat....however when he hasnt had either he now has them I am even considering if totally cutting out this 'allergen' is creating more for him to be intolerant of if you know what I mean?

tbh I am now doubting the source a little too. I asked for lamb tripe before and they said yes, and tbf, he was fine, I asked for lamb liver and they said yes....this time I asked and they said they cannot do that as they use all sources together; they didnt say this was a new thing though! Perhaps its me looking a little too close but...hmm

The problem is it is very hard to (reliably) get offal that isn't beef or lamb here. Even in the supermarkets its hard to get pork offal and chicken livers.