thanks but again still the same triangle shape once on so he only has the one loop to get his head through when he pulls back, i mean this type of style but better quality
http://www.zooplus.co.uk/shop/dogs/d...harness/278608
the one pictured is too collarish at the front if that makes sense, i want one that holds the chest not the neck???? it's driving me mad. x

found it i think

http://www.petsathome.com/shop/contr...duct%20details

The pups wear one similar to this, and they can't back out of it

I found this on google. I'm thinking of getting one for my Springer as he he has wrecked his doxlock harness

http://www.dogforum.de/userpix1/8129...C00335_2_1.jpg

I wad just about to suggest this one..poppy has it, I'm really pleased with it x x

Thanks everyone gonna get the pets at home one, it's what nush had, and i know she couldn't escape