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Originally Posted by
Emrad
Oh Lauren that sounds so horrid, I have to say I wouldn't be going to a party of a friend of a friend of the person holding it, not to say that its is Joe's fault at all just an observation.
The story sounds all too familiar these days, it seems to be such a regular act when parties and alcohol mix.
First off chick, calm in no way could you see that coming, I get Joe doesnt want to go out in the future he has just been involved in a horrible situation, it will settle in time and make him more cautious for sure.
For now as Azz said take photo's and if he can see a doctor so they can document the injuries as well (photo's are good but a doctor can stand up and show his medical report and it holds a lot of weight).
I am not sure if you can do it, but here you can make a statement to the police without deciding to press charges, just wondering if that is an option for him as often things blur in time and if anything happens in the future it will be on record (say he ever runs into one of these fools) and can be taken further (of course withstanding staute of limitations).
Can't stand how women think they can hit men any more that the opposite way, all for equal rights but if Joe were to hit back it would be seen as the lowest of low acts.
It is gonna take a while for him to get it in perspective that it is a reflection on the people who got involved the fight not him.
I doubt they would have put him in a van and he would never been seen again........you know why...............most people that do that sort of thing, don't say it they just do it
it was more a case of the police were coming and it would have put an end to the night, and they could be arrested for assault
Hugs, Joe will be alright and it is a good sign when you worry it shows you care (just not good for the nerves)
Joe just went coz his friend said it was ok, if they had gone up and civilly said they weren’t welcome, then they would have left. Going in heavy handed is completely wrong of them, and not the way to deal with the situation.
Ive tried to get him to go to the docs (worried about the concussion) but he never goes
im working on it though, coz he is in a lot of pain with his head and back.
I hate that women think they can hit and man and not expect a reaction too, its so unfair. His friend was actually beaten up and stabbed a few years ago, now if anyone shows the slightest sign of aggression, he will lash out (psychologically he is very scarred) and he even admitted to joe that if that happened to him, he would have hit her. I don’t think its ever right to hit someone, but why can she hit him 3 times and then joe is the bad guy for just pushing her away from him! it makes me so mad, if she had been a guy, and joe hit him, then he would be no where need as much as a bad guy coz it would be a guy he hit.
I doubt they would have put him in a van, but that kind of thing does happen. Its one of those things where you think it would never happen to you… but it happens to someone, so the thought that could be joe terrifies the life out of me. im glad the police arrived when they did, coz if not it could have been worse…
Originally Posted by
Jackbox
Was this party in a house or a club, if a club surely there will be CCTV in use, to back up his claims,
Maybe with hindsight (a wonderful thing) he and his friends should have left when they first got wind of them not being welcome.
If CCTV was in play surely it will show that she was the one who hit a man with his back to her... as you say she hit him on the back of the neck, then the back of his head..so he must have been with his back to her... how did she then manage to hit him in the fact when he turned to look at his friend.
All this should be on record if he 1) wishes to make a complaint 2) any complaints come from her side.
Were the police called, as he said the police were driving down, ,
I can understand you being upset, but not sure what you meant be "being put in a van and never being seen again" ?
Playing devils advocate here, and by no means am I excusing what took place, but the "drink" fueled attack may have come from an angle of ... her friends seeing her being "pushed" by a bloke they don't know..!!! and were reacting in defence of her........
But as always when to much drink is involved things get out of hand, and this seems to have been on of them.
I am sure he will recover, but as others have said, he must make some kind of note of this.. maybe go to the A&E and have the injuries set on record, also make a formal complaint to the police, if for no other reason to protect himself.
Although I doubt anything will come of it, as it all seemed to be fueled by alcohol,
The party was in a kind of pub/hotel/restaurant place, and they have a function room for parties and weddings. They have CCTV there so if the police look at it, they can see that joe didn’t do anything but defend himself.
They probably should have left, but if someone went up and explained they weren’t welcome then they would have left. but they hadn’t done anything wrong, so didn’t think it would be so hostile. He even told me today, that there was a wee boy around 7 or 8 playing with a balloon, and he started a game with joe where they were hitting the balloon to each other.
They were standing in a kind of square shape (the girl, joe and his 2 friends) so joe was at a kind of right angle to her (and she was right next to him), so that’s how she hit the back of his head and neck. Then he turned his head the opposite way to her (so like a 180 degree angle) and so while he wasn’t looking punched his face. not sure if that makes sense, difficult to explain lol.
The police must have been called, but not sure who called them. probably people who work there, or maybe others from the party.
The bit about the van is what they said… they were basically saying that a van would go down, take him away and kill him
. I know the chances of that are very slim, but some people do sick things like that, and its one of those ‘it wont happen to me’ situations.
They might have been acting in defence of her, but she hit him 3 times so he had the right to defend himself too. same as his mates jumped into the fight to try and get them off him, with such an out number though they would never have been able to.
I don’t think anything will come of it, sadly this happens all the time around here so it’s a common occurrence.