my problem with breeding them is in the majority of cases its soley done to make money and that imo just isnt a good enough reason to breed any dog whether its pedigree or crossbreed.

I just love dogs! Whatever breed, size, colour etc I just love em!

I have collies now but before that had what we always called a 'mongrel' who was a mix of all sorts of who knows what and for me it was the not knowing what to expect that made things extra interesting! Having said that, I suppose there's an element of the unexpected with any dog.
I didn't see the programme but my general feeling (as someone who isn't really educated in the history of breeds or breeding) is that for some people designer breeds will represent something new and they want to be the people to have the new thing which is all good and well as long as they take an interest in the background of the breeds which have been crossed and do what they need to do to give the dog a good life. Maybe that's just naiive, but hey - I don't claim to be perfect!
I do feel at little sad at the use of the word 'mongrel' though. It's been used on this thread in a really insulting way, which I know is kind of what it was intended for, but we always called Suzi a mongrel and only ever meant it in a loving way. I guess the nicer term is a heinz 57, but we never really used that.
Suzi was my best friend for 17 years. She was definitely JRT, but there were another 3 or 4 options of what else might have been with it and she was the most beautiful girl.
I think cross breeds are great whether planned or not, as long as it's not encouraging poor health, but either way, we've made it so they need us so lets just give them lots of love!

Why should it be banned as a subject to be debated? Everything else can be debated on here so why pick on that? Other people are allowed their point of view against these dogs and it's only fair to let them have their say. If a thread isn't going your way or you find it offensive then leave it because others are allowed to discuss what they want!

I wouldn't bother trying to explain things to some folk on here.
They love the banter about Designer Dogs and they dont care who they upset.
It also keeps the forum busy.
I have got better things to do now and it just proves to me they aint gonna stop.
So they can talk to each other about Designer Dogs because i have had it with them.
Well best go and walk Gucci and Coco

I'd like to say well done mods, through this you have mantained your dignity when certain people have thrown hissy fits, you do a great job, and its because of you that this forum is as good as it is, there will always be fallouts on forums as there is everywhere in life, but you do a good job in cleaning up the mess that comes from certain things and help this online community run as it does, and I would like to thank and applaud you for your patience, I for one could not be so calm and patient on threads like this, as you have probaly seen but somehow you maintain your composure and do your best all the time, so thank you, and well done.

What beautiful 'poo's, and a great post too.

I think people all need to chill out on this if you dont mind me saying so.

Every few weeks or so on here there is a thread on this. Someone decides to start a thread entitled "Designer Dogs", or "Another crossbreed" or whatever and so it starts.

For what it is worth, as the owner of a much loved cockerpoo I find much of it nonsensical.

First, I get offended by the term 'Designer Dog'. It conjures up mental images of Paris Hiltonesque bimbo's carrying dogs around in handbags because they are the latest fashion accessory.

Believe it or not, many of the owners of 'poos and 'doodles are caring and responsible owners, who spend time and effort training and looking after their dogs to make them happy, healthy and properly socialised.

I am not saying that owners of these dogs are any better than the owners of any other dog, but neither are we any worse, and the labelling of our dogs with this term is in my mind both unfair and insulting.

Maybe I am being over sensitive, but considering the almost constant scrutiny of it on here it's hardly surprising.

There is horror at the mere thought that these dogs are referred to as a breed. God forbid any of us should utter the word in public!

Never a day goes by without me getting asked what breed of dog Bobby is, and my reply is always to say he is a cockerpoo.

Yes, I know he is not a recognised breed and I knew that before I bought him, but when people are thinking or talking about dogs they often automatically use that term, as opposed to type, mix, make-up or anything else.

There was a post by someone (apologies, I can't remember who) who was commenting on a lady who had two cockerpoos and couldn't handle them. The implication in the post was that because of the mixes of poodle and cocker, they were unmanageable, and that she had been told they would be easy to handle.

Obviously I don't know the breeder she got them from, or what she was told, but neither do I know how much time and effort had been put into training them.

People on here and elsewhere will have read similar stories about Akita's, GSD, Border Collie's or whatever. being bought by people who, quite frankly, shouldn't be thinking of having a dog.

Should all breeders scrutinise who they are selling their dogs too? Undoubtedly! It doesn't always happen though and the problem isn't just with breeders of crosses.

I know on here there are lots of people who love and care for their dogs, and it doesn't matter what they look like or what their ancestary is. There is a vast wealth of knowledge to help and educate fellow dog owners.

That's the way it should be, without comments or implied criticism about people choosing a particular type of dog.

Personally I think it would be great if this forum did what some others have done and ban this topic from being debated.

It would allow people to ask for information on 'poo's and doodles etc, but could not be used as an excuse to just vent disapproval or criticism.

I'll keep my fingers crossed while feeding a treat to my wonderful 'designer dog'!

I think that is good you have only had good experiences with owners that want this cross. It is just I have seen how fickle people can be and dogs get dumped because some of the promises made aren't able to be fulfilled


I don't understand why though, if the two breeds alone are 'hypo allergenic' what is the necessity of crossing them about?
There are quiet a few non shedding breeds, and what I have learnt about them in that, their hair falls out like ours and therefore requires regular thorough grooming and many end up in knots as that isn't being told.

or for the lack of purpose..

Are all peds used for their intended purpose? If so there are so many peds who were bred for the same purpose so are every one of them required? A lot of dogs are now bred for home temprament as we all know.

Thats not what I meant, I meant a purpose such as to be worked, shown, agility ect! Many people just say their breed as pets, so It doesnt matter how they turn out ect. I believe In breeding for a reason no matter what breed or cross.

But If we want to bring that point up. Most pure bred dogs we find to day were In actual fact bred for a reason, to serve a purpose. Not just because people liked the look of a type of cross. No matter If that breed does still not serve that purpose .. It was still bred to!

Thats what I was saying. The dogs were bred for a purpose. They now no longer require that purpose in many. Other than a few and good on them continuing to worked for their purpose but a lot of dogs bred for garding purpose hunting etc etc are now kept as pets. The crosses can still be used in agility. Have seen many. My two crosses not doodle or anything train in obedience and I am very focused on their obedience work. Unfortunately of course they cannot be shown. So how can they be for no purpose?

Your getting confused with what I am saying. Many dogs can do agility and other such activities. Im not saying they cant. Im saying 'most' cross breeders, breed their dogs for no purpose other than to supply the high demand of the pet market. Others wont see anything wrong with that and thats fine but like I said I like breeders to be aiming for something from their litter and yes we all want pets and love them, but atm I dont think breeding just to supply a pet market alone with out little thought of anything else Is a good enough reason to breed. Let It be pure Chinese Cresteds or Chinese Crested crosses.

Your getting confused with what I am saying. Many dogs can do agility and other such activities. Im not saying they cant. Im saying 'most' cross breeders, breed their dogs for no purpose other than to supply the high demand of the pet market. Others wont see anything wrong with that and thats fine but like I said I like breeders to be aiming for something from their litter and yes we all want pets and love them, but atm I dont think breeding just to supply a pet market alone with out little thought of anything else Is a good enough reason to breed. Let It be pure Chinese Cresteds or Chinese Crested crosses.