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colliecrazy1
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22-04-2006, 07:29 PM

looking for a new House

Started looking for a new house,......
Nead somwhere Bigger.....So we can have another Dog.... We are Going to Move to the Country if we can get somthing....lol.... Meg will be safe there....
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22-04-2006, 07:41 PM
the country is a great place, meg would love it
fingers crossed for you
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22-04-2006, 07:44 PM
Good luck, the country is brilliant!!

Whereabouts are you interested in?
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22-04-2006, 08:08 PM
best of luck-i love looking at houses x
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22-04-2006, 08:31 PM
Well we live In DRONFIELD....so anywere in Derbishire we would love, With some Space For our Meg....We are Just Scared that Somthing Else is Going to happen, When i went out with meg This Afternoon for her Walk met A nICE MAN WITH 2 labs... he was Telling me He Was talking with a Ladie the Otherday and She Said a Farmer Shot somones Dog...On a Field, Even Through there was Know Sheep in the Field....are Some Farmers a Bit Too Keen, or What...this ladie had said, the Dog was Old...and was Just LIFTING HE,S LEG LIKE THEY do, and then the farmer came out and Shot it.... Cant take it in My self But surely the farmer can only do that if the dog was upsetting he,s Animals??? Im not sure on the rules But id like to Know....
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24-04-2006, 06:30 PM
I don't know the law exactly but recently a report in our local paper stated a Lurcher had gone on the rampage and killed 17 new born lambs. The paper stated the farmer rang the police for permission to shoot the animal to protect the rest of his livestock and permission was granted.

This would suggest to me that farmers are obliged to get permission first? Not sure :smt102

Hope you find your new home and enjoy the countryside. Wishing you the best of luck for a quick sale and happy move!

I would take what the guy said with a pinch of salt to be honest! I live within close distance to fields and farm-land and have never had any probs with any of my dogs being in the fields, as long as you respect and obey the law, like don't have your dog off-lead where livestock is, especially lambing time. This is the most likely time a Farmer would be over-protective of his stock, and I wouldn't blame him!
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24-04-2006, 06:42 PM
Under the Dogs (NI) Order 1983, as amended by the Dangerous Dogs (NI) Order 1991 it is an offence for a person to be the keeper of a dog which attacks livestock.




Under the Dogs (NI) Order 1983 as amended by the Dangerous Dogs (NI) Order 1991 it is against the law for dogs to chase or attack livestock.

What happens to the dog that has sheep-worried?
The law states:

1) Where a dog has attacked or killed livestock the court may make an order directing the dog to be destroyed.

2) Where it appears to a court that a dog has chased livestock in such a way as might reasonably have been expected to cause injury or suffering to the livestock or to result in financial loss to the owner of livestock the court may:

a) make an order directing the dog to be destroyed; or
b) make an order directing the dog to be kept confined in a building, shed or other enclosure from which it cannot escape.

A court must be satisfied of a dog's involvement beyond reasonable doubt before an order for destruction or confinement may be passed.


Farmers' rights
A farmer is legally protected in shooting a dog in his vicinity if the animal is not under the charge of a person and is worrying, about to worry or had worried livestock and if he has no practical means of identifying the owner or there is no means of preventing or ending the worrying.


Heavy price to pay
If it is proved beyond reasonable doubt that a dog was involved in the worrying of livestock the the court may make an order for its humane destruction and impose a heavy fine plus additional court fees on the owner. In some cases the farmer may also file a claim for compensation, these costs may exceed thousands of pounds.

Country Code of Practice

1) When near livestock or on any land where livestock are present and have a right to be there your dog must always be on a lead.

2) Never leave your dog unattended - as it only takes a matter of seconds for a fluffy sheep to whet his desire.

3) Familiarise your dog to livestock before visiting rural, animal-populated areas.

4) Train puppies at a young age (before 12 weeks of age) and allow them to socialise with other animal species to reduce the fascination and the tendency to chase later in life. Training in the six commands of basic obedience - stay, come, site, heel, wait and down - will give you confidence that you will be able to control your dog.

5) Reward your dog with a pat on the head or a special treat when he reacts mutely to livestock. Eventually the dog will recognise the link between the treat and good behaviour.

6) Remain relaxed and nonplussed when your dog becomes excited around livestock, otherwise the dog will recognise it as an attention seeking technique.
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24-04-2006, 07:55 PM
[QUOTE=Amie]Under the Dogs (NI) Order 1983, as amended by the Dangerous Dogs (NI) Order 1991 it is an offence for a person to be the keeper of a dog which attacks livestock.




Under the Dogs (NI) Order 1983 as amended by the Dangerous Dogs (NI) Order 1991 it is against the law for dogs to chase or attack livestock.


Errrmmm, doesn't that refer specifically to Northern Ireland?? I'm sure the laws are broadly similar but the (NI) bit usually denotes that it is legislation in Northen Ireland and, as such, may differ from that of the rest of the UK.
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24-04-2006, 08:14 PM
been Looking @ a House today,
really NICE, but its about 15miles to My Husbands Work....and the Man, Was not very helpful when we Asked Question, about the house...He Just Said well I will let you know.
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24-04-2006, 08:16 PM
we are Trying to Get to move Somewere hope valley... or round abouts...Thats why i have been Spring cleaning....yuck....lol
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