And back on topic, is everyone's view on CM not based on the media? True? Yet on the other side of the forum you may well be saying, "Oh don't believe everything you see in the media, we all know what the media does". So you don't REALLY know what he is like, or his dogs, or all his techniques e.t.c unless you have met him and observed him on a day to day basis, not pick clips, not a commercialised show that makes it look like he transforms dogs in a couple of days, we all know that's not how it goes when a dog has a serious issue as i'm sure does he.

But like it or not, he has actually saved dogs on many an occasion from death, but that's just not good enough I guess...

Where did I say residential training was the way to go?
I said I have no problem entrusting others with my dogs ( although that sounds like I'd hand them over at the drop of a hat and I certainly wouldn't) I do however use kennels when I go abroad. I looked at loads and tbh thought most were cr@p but eventually found one that's brilliant. So when I said for the sake of answering the question, I would entrust my dogs to him. It's never going to happen, it's a hypothetical question, but hypothetically yes I would. Mine don't have any issues and don't need any training that I can't manage myself.
I have said all along we can all have our own opinions although it would be nice if people actually had the facts before slating the guy. Do I think he's now being described as the devil personified by some? Yes I do. sorry I'm entitled to an opinion too, I may be in the minority but it doesn't make my opinion any less valid. I try to stick to the facts and try not to go down the name calling, juvenile route that some favour.
Do I think he's way is the only way? nope never said it was.
People who are new to dogs could do a lot worse than read his books that's for sure. There is a lot of really good information in them, and no he never recommends anyone alpha roll or string there dogs up etc etc. He talks a lot of sense.

I stated my opinon....not basing it on what anyone else thought

Yep - thats fine - I would never (if there was any possibly way to avoid it) leave my dogs with anyone I did not trust 100% and know very well.

Where you feel that some people are being overly critical of CM - I feel that others are over praising him - that is my opinon.

And dealing with pet people who have problems with thier dogs has taught me that they will not always read into things - they will jump head head first without reading or trying to interperet what is going on.
That is why - to me, it is more than important for the information to get out there that there are different ways of doing things and there are people about that will help out.

Well there is always an option to ignore them.

rune

Tassle wrote.

<<<Residential training is not (IMO) a way to go - and nor are the methods that CM preaches.>>>>>

Shame you feel like that---after today I was thinking you could have the pup for a few weeks---while I recover!

rune

I do think that is what all these threads boil down to in the end...although with the 'he does speak sense about food/exercise/calm and assertive..'
I agree with this again Tassle. My view exactly
Again...I think both sides are as bad as each other to be fair.
I also agree that the reason I keep going on is education..

Plenty of people have done that. Plenty of people do it on a daily basis without feeling the need to shout about it and tell people how wonderful they are.

Many of the people that rehabilitate dogs do it in a kind manner, under exceptionally difficult circumstances. No need for stringing up etc. They also help people to do the same. Example of that that springs to mind immediately is Sarah Fisher. She does loads of work with rescues on the quiet..no shouting about it and also works with staff. No stringing up, no kicking, no poking or hitting,just an awareness of what the dog's needs are.

He may well have 'saved' some dogs...but I object to his harsh methods and I question how they have left the dog long term. I wonder how many ticking time bombs are out there. There are other ways that are much more kind and I think that is the sticking point with all of us pro/anti people here. It is far better to work WITH the dog that set yourself up in conflict with it and push it to it's limits.

Erm no. I can't think of anything worse!

Although I have now reached the stage where I would gladly pay someone to help me teach Woody to walk on a loose lead!!

Anyone? ;o)

True but I also have the option to give my point of view and that's the option I so obviously chose.

Easy, & I'm not going to charge you for this! Take charge, stand tall, keep your dogs to your side (or slightly behind you) if they start to pull ahead a quick 'tssst' to remind them who's in leading who! Keep your grip on the lead as loose as possible so as not to transfer any stress you are feeling. Once youv'e done it once you'll wonder why you've never been taught it before & it's easy & instant! Let me know if it works for you too.

i thought your dog still pulls and is walked on a choke chain
forgive me if im wrong