Now if I am allowed to, I can put up websites on here that show Pit Bulls to be anything from 85-100Lbs in weight.
I've highlighted part of your post as it admits that these dogs can weigh anything over as long as they are in proportion!

A breed standard is a description of the 'perfect' dog. It also clearly states that dogs over this weight shouldn't be penalised. If you are saying that you don't believe it was a pitbull based solely on the fact of it's weight then my Boxer can't have been a male Boxer because the weight range is 30 - 32 Kgs and he only weighed 28 so he must have been a bitch then
Becky

just a quicky! this thread isn't about breed standards it asked the question ARE PIT BULLS DANGEROUS? answer yes they are! now lets start a thread about every other breed!

Nicci just post the kennel names and I can find out if these dogs are bred for show or . . . . . . . . . . . .other jobs!! it might take 48 hours but auntie B can find out

I'll wait for Azz or one of the mods to give me the okay to post the links
What the dogs have been bred for is either here nor there is it?
Fact is they are Pit Bulls and big ones at that. All the weights of the dogs are in each profile of each dog on each website, which is why I would like to post the exact links to the dogs, just so people here can make their minds up whether they believe the dogs to be Pit Bulls or not, each website states that they are. If I am allowed to post the links I will

thats fair enough! but what they are bred for is here or there! any pit above 50-60lbs is outside the breed standard and in alot of pit bull breeders opinions (people I have met or talked to on line through auntie B) anything above the breed standard weight is for one thing only and should not be kept as family pets, not because they are anymore aggresive, but just a whole lot more work! I look forward to getting the links also the added weight can cause health problem for the poor dogs too! this is why most pit breeders are against it!

im slightly confused by how the pit bull breed standard has nething to do with if there dangerous or not?

It had something to do with the weight, that a 6 stone dog couldn't be a pit because they aren't meant to be that weight!
Becky

Exactly Ian. Also in this country at least, any good breeder of a bull breed or any rescue would not allow a dog to go to an unsuitable owner. If a person obtains any dog be it from a breeder or a rescue it will surely have documentation of some kind, if not a pedigree at least some details related to it and its origins, so people can't really can't say they don't know what they own . Surely the only people who don't have documentation are those who obtained their dogs from dubious sources and are well aware of the type of dog they own.


..and what if they don't get the right kind of owner Stamford, PBT are not even supposed to be around in this country and those that are certainly don't seem to attract the right owner.
If image and breed traits are not the main criteria for people owning these particular dogs,why do people have them. There is plenty of choice, why a PBT,why don't they get a dog that doesn't resembles a banned dog in any way, why not buy a good Staffy from a good breeder or a get a staff cross from a rescue. I doubt very much that the dog which killed Ellie came from either.

Yes other breeds need a 'certain type' of owner and in the wrong hands can cause problems. Under socialised incorrectly treated dogs of any breed can exhibit a number of behaviours, some become destructive of their environment/excessively vocal/withdrawn/have OCDs, others become aggressive to other dogs/humans or both. I think the traits for which a breed was originally bred predispose them to certain behaviours and this also applies at times of stress. I have already mentioned the freeze/flight or fight responses, if a stressful situation that a dog couldn't cope with arose many breeds would freeze or flee , PBT would almost certainly fight, a trait for which they were bred.

I think some people are missing the point here or deliberately choosing to misunderstand what others are saying often because they don't bother to read the whole thread.

I don't think anyone has said that all Pit Bulls are dangerous, just that because of the traits for which they were originally bred they have the potential to do more damage than many other breeds therefore some of them are dangerous and more so than other breeds.

thanxs,
this tread is really starting to turn in2 a pitbull war,which i dont think was intended
the point was,wots ur opinion,do you think pits are dangerous.
my answer,in the wrong hands,yes

Hi Nicci, the links can be posted so long as they don't break link rules - eg, have forums on them