owners who are not experienced with bitches in season? I would not have known suki was in season apart from i was warned to keep extra eye on her becuase her mum had s silent season hence she was caught at 11 months, they were planning on breeding but not so soon, they had some tests done in preparation.

what about doors/gates being left open by accident?

ATD x

It's such a difficult situation for the rescues tbh, I hate early neutering due to the likely damage done to the puppy being neutered. But then I've come across 1 person recently, via work, who has openly admitted to breeding from a rescue unregistered ESS and getting £300 per pup. The reason? They moved before the rescue could enforce the neutering rule and someone with a male ESS approached them in the park offering stud services! What worries me more is the breeding of an unregistered bitch, how can they be sure that the dog and bitch weren't related????

Very sad that people would profit from a dog in need and even more difficult for the rescues picking up the pieces of these scumbags.

sad but not uncommon at all
You get a dog cheep from a rescue, sneak a litter or two out of it at several £100's per pup - its a temptation for some people

and even the non scumbags there are still lots of people who think its best to take a litter out of a bitch to 'calm her down' they think they are doing the right thing because that is what 'everyone' has been saying forever

Good post, well said

It is very simple my entire bitches are never left unsupervised with the boys QED

I check my entire bitches weekly until a cycle is known & fortunately Keewee has such a short coat even a silent season would be obvious

Leaving doors & gates open is negligent not accidental-sorry

I can think of no tests that can be done(other than DNA tests)on Collies/ESS under a year old, certainly not hips/elbows/eyes etc.

If you buy a bitch you should learn about seasons etc before getting the bitch not afterwards

Only rehome puppies to owners with other animals all neutered???

9 weeks is early, and a lot of health issues from early neutering are report but not confirmed (from my understanding) so maybe why vets are still willing to neuter so young.

Must be a difficult situation, charging for neutering on adoption is possible but I was surprised to hear of people saying things like 'well I won't neuter yet because she might be a mothering dog' ????

People are stupid. I don't like people.

Of course there's such a thing as an 'accidental mating'.

Negligence, Irresponsibilty, Naivety, Inexperience.

There's many reasons (not valid excuses) but the fact is that it happens.

These have been posted many times on Dogsey, but in case anyone has missed it:

NAIA (The National Animal Interest Alliance) report on castration (PDF)

PETmd's article on Tubal ligations and vasectomies

Totally wrong to neuter animals so early.

I can`t help feeling that if a Rescue believes a prospective owner is too stupid or uncaring enough not to breed from their Rescue dog, they shouldn`t be rehoming a dog to them.