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kate_7590
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12-06-2009, 10:46 PM

Why should I nueter him?

I got Flint microchipped the other week at a vets, not my normal vets I add.
Well its a bit of a long story but here goes- Flint was quite nervous about going into the vets, as its somewhere different and hes not great with new situations [something im trying to work through] The vet came out and chatted for a while about Flint, asked if hes aggressive? Does he need a mussle? Has he bitten anyone?
After I answered her questions she promptly took his lead out of my hand and dragged him 3 foot across the floor Flint tryed to back out of his collar and refused to move, so she dragged him another 3 feet until he jumped up and pulled back, landing on his back!
The vet tutted at him and looked at me saying 'this isnt right, he shouldnt be like this, its not normal.' I was shocked that she was saying this and told her my opinion, saying that I was suprised that she was so shocked, and of course he wouldnt want to go with someone whos taking him away from me! I told her I was glad he wouldnt willingly go with her! She then said I wasnt allowed in the room, so I said 'Fine, I'll go then, coz he obviously isnt going to go with you' But when she realised I was actually going to leave without paying for anything, she relented and said I could go in with him, he walked in fine with me!
She muzzled him and microchipped him- everything fine.
When we got out in the paying room a woman with a big Airedale came in and let her dog push Flint into a corner and push her face into his, he was really scared and trying to hide under the desk table, i told the woman Flint was a bit uneasy about other dogs and asked if she could please move her dog back. She replyed 'They all need to meet other dogs at some point' I then replyed back 'Yes of course but Im telling you my dog is not good with other dogs, if he bites a lump out of her face you'll be the first to complain, but Iv already warned you.' She then pulls the dog back. I was a bit peeved!
The vet then basically told me he NEEDED to be nuetered and wanted me to bring him in ASAP, telling me that he is aggressive and it will turn really bad when hes a bit older. Also if hes not nuetered hes got an 80% chance of getting testicular cancer! Now I know this is untrue, but was shocked that a qualified vet would say things like this.
I said I didnt think he was aggressive in the least, he was trying to get away from another dog, wasnt confrontational at all! And told me to take him to socialisation and training classes coz he has 'issues' with people! Well DUHH, stupid woman dragged him 6 foot across the waiting room floor away from me!!!

Sorry for ranting on! Anyway, my question is- Do you think he has got a type of aggression? Am I just not seeing this coz I love him and im being blinkered? Or was this vet out of order? Does he need to be nuetered? I didnt really see the point, as hes a lovely boy and is VERY obedient with me, but of course I will if it needs to be done for his benefit.

Sorry for such a LONG thread, but Im a bit unsure of what else to do!

Any help on this matter is greatly appriciated x
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12-06-2009, 10:51 PM
neutering is a personal choice, I do believe in it as think it prevents any accidental matings and saves a lot of possible hassle with bitches in heat etc.

However its up to you to research both sides and make your own decision on that.

I wouldnt advise neutering down to aggression as it depends on what type of aggression its dealing with. I think this vet sounds like an idiot and I wouldnt be going back to her.

I do think that perhaps it would be an idea to get your dog into socialisation/puppy classes if you can to build his confidence and yours.

Without seeing your dog its difficult to give a proper opinion, but I dont think that you should read too much into what this Vet says - i dont think they sound very good at all.

Neutering has its benefits but as i said its up to you whether to do it.
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12-06-2009, 10:51 PM
He's not aggressive, your vet was out of order and neutering a nervous dog will only make it worse as it removes their testosterone. I'm sorry they treated you both like that. And 80% chance of testicular cancer?Which is treated by.. Neutering? B*llocks if you ask me
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12-06-2009, 10:54 PM
Stupid vet! You know that Flint is OK, you're just having to take things slowly with him. Neutering a nervy dog is the last thing anyone should do. Follow your instincts and stay clear of this vet. Hope Flint is ok, that must have been a stressful experience for you both.
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12-06-2009, 10:59 PM
It is hard to say for definite without meeting him but I would be very wary of neutering him as he sounds unsure of himself and very wary. Neutering him could make him aggressive in this situation IMO. As for the vet's scaremongering, sounds as if she is more concerned about bucks than fact- steer away.
You decide what is best for your dog hun
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12-06-2009, 11:03 PM
Oh! for goodness sake, this maddens me (not you hun, the vet)

Neutering IMO is personal choice....nothing else. A dog that is nervous benefits nothing from being neutered. This is your dog not the Vets.....so it is your decision at the end of the day.

I have had BC's for years and have seen nervous ones, they benefit from socialisation, puppy classes/training classes etc.,

Bruce our youngest is not nervous in the slightest, but he was abit upset last week when his leg wound re-opened and a vet (that he had never seen before) tried to take him into another room.....that is a confident dog....and yes I went in with him,because I didn't want him fretting.

Don't worry, I can not see in what you have put where there is any aggression
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12-06-2009, 11:04 PM
Thanks everyone, you've made me feel much better!
It sounds stupid now but I was in tears the evening after taking him to that vet. At the time I was just shocked, but on the way home he fell asleep on my knee and I thought to myself 'why was she making him out to be a nasty uncontrollable dog, hes perfect [to me anyways lol]' That evening I was going over all she had said to me and looking at Flint sat in front of me, beautiful puppy he is.
Sorry, going on again arent I!

But as I say, thanks guys =] x
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12-06-2009, 11:05 PM
she sounds horrible! poor flint

i would always neuter (jake is getting it done when he is old enough) coz it prevents any accidental mating and also to lessen humping lol. my old dog, sam, was terrible for it but when he got neutered it got so much better, he still did it but not to the same degree lol. it does also prevent things like testicular cancer but i dont think the % is as higher as 80.

the classes do sound good though, will help build his confidence especially around new people and dogs.

dont get it done just coz she told you to. some vets are just after money, the vet i first took jake to was trying to get him booked in for neutering when he was 9 weeks old! at least 4 months in advance! the sspca are doing his anyway though

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13-06-2009, 07:59 AM
Originally Posted by Loki's mum View Post
Stupid vet! You know that Flint is OK, you're just having to take things slowly with him. Neutering a nervy dog is the last thing anyone should do. Follow your instincts and stay clear of this vet. Hope Flint is ok, that must have been a stressful experience for you both.
Whilst I agree that the Vet was amazingly stupid and ...had a vet treated my dog like that I would be lodging a complaint or changing my vet.

Neutering is a personal choice...but it can help with nervous dogs. I have witnessed this happen in 2 seperate cases. I would NOT however advise this without a lot more in depth research into the dog.

Well done for standing your ground.
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13-06-2009, 08:10 AM
I hope you`re going to change your vet, to start with? The last thing you need is a vet who is also an amateur behaviourist. I`ve only ever had neutered males, so I`ve no experience with un-neutered except those owned by friends, who do seem to have trouble with them - but then, they don`t train them either so they would.
For what it`s worth - if you`re keeping multiple dogs, or mixed genders, neutering makes it more manageable because you`re taking one possible source of trouble out of the equation.
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