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11-05-2010, 09:47 PM

What does it all mean?

im rly confused what this means now with cameron etc.

Can someone please explain it in real plan english lol

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EDIT: Q&A posted from BBC's site

Q&A: The Conservative-Lib Dem coalition

The Conservative Party is to form a coalition government with the Liberal Democrats. Here is a guide to how it will work.

What's happening?

The Conservatives have agreed to form a coalition government with the Liberal Democrats. It is the first time Britain has had a coalition government in 70 years - and the first time these two parties have ever agreed to a power sharing deal at a national level in the UK. Conservative leader David Cameron will lead the new government but there will be senior cabinet posts for Liberal Democrat MPs, with their leader Nick Clegg serving as deputy prime minister.

Why didn't the Conservatives form a government after the election?

They didn't get a clear win. Normally the party with more MPs than all the others put together forms a government, but the Conservatives fell just short of that. They have 306 MPs - they needed 326 for a majority. When no-one has a majority of MPs it is called a hung Parliament. . It means that to have effective government the Conservatives needed to form a coalition, or at least reach an understanding with the Lib Dems and/or other parties, to get legislation through. The Conservatives won 36% of the vote, Labour 29% and the Lib Dems 23%.

What sort of deal have the Conservatives and Lib Dems done?

They have entered a full coalition. The Lib Dems are to get five seats in Cabinet and a reported 20 ministerial jobs - so nearly half of all the 57 Lib Dem MPs will be in government. It is understood that Vince Cable will have responsibility for business and banks, Danny Alexander will be Scottish Secretary and Chris Huhne energy and climate change secretary. David Laws is also expected to get a high-profile job. The arrangement appears to be intended to last for five years, given that the two parties have agreed to pass legislation which would set the next election for May 2015.

What will be their key priorities?

They have said their top priority is the economy and cutting Britain's record budget deficit. Education is seen as crucial too. Both parties want similar-sounding pupils' premiums and further schools reforms. Cleaning up politics is also near the top of the agenda and there are a range of measures from fixed term Parliaments, banning non-dom peers, curbs on lobbyists and recalling MPs that both parties agree on. It is also reported they have agreed on reforms to the House of Lords. Finally, and most importantly for the Lib Dems, electoral reform. There will be a referendum on scrapping Britain's first-past-the-post voting system in favour of the Alternative Vote method before the next general election - even though the Conservatives are likely to campaign for against any voting change.

How will it work?

It is impossible to say precisely, as we are in uncharted waters. Ministers from both parties will be bound by collective responsibility - meaning they must agree to support all Cabinet decisions - when it comes to key issues such as the economy, tax, defence, immigration, foreign policy and Europe. However, it has been agreed that the Lib Dem MPs will be permitted to abstain in a vote in the House of Commons on certain issues where they disagree with the Conservatives. One definite area of disagreement is on the Conservatives' plans for a tax break for married couples. Other such areas could be nuclear power and university tuition fees. Should the Lib Dems end up voting against the coalition on a central issue, that could bring an end to the deal.

Do we know what their policy plans are going to be?

Not yet. A document will be published shortly saying which of the policies, from the two party manifestos, will be the government's main priorities. It has involved a series of compromises on both sides and manifesto pledges dropped.

What have we already gleaned about Lib Dem compromises on policies?

The Lib Dems have agreed to back the Tories plan for 6bn in public spending cuts this year and support the scrapping of part of next year's 1% National Insurance tax rise. They have agreed to drop plans for a "mansion tax" on properties costing more than 2m and will support a cap on non-EU immigration. They have dropped their opposition to renewal of the Trident nuclear deterrent although the cost of the project will be carefully scrutinised. They have also agreed that no further powers should be ceded to the EU without a referendum and the UK should not join the euro.

What have we already gleaned about Tory compromises on policies?

The Conservatives have agreed to put back plans to raise the inheritance tax thresholds to 1m. They have also agreed to spend more money to cut class sizes for disadvantaged pupils. They have agreed to Lib Dem plans to raise the point at which people start paying tax to 10,000, although this will be phased in. As mentioned before, they have also said they will hold a referendum on the voting system and the introduction of fixed-term Parliaments, which they previously opposed.

What will the two parties make of the deal?

Both men have tried to take their parties with them during the negotiations, giving them regular updates and taking soundings, and the fact that both parties are now in power will help garner support for the deal. But there is still likely to be some anger among backbench MPs and from grassroots activists on both sides who are more used to battling against each other in local and general elections than being on the same side.

What happens to Gordon Brown and Labour?

Gordon Brown has formally tendered his resignation as prime minster to The Queen. He has also stood down as leader of the Labour Party with immediate effect, handing over the reins to his deputy - and now acting leader - Harriet Harman. There will now be a battle to succeed Mr Brown at the head of the Labour Party, with a new leader likely to be in place by the middle of July. Labour Party MPs will sit on the opposition benches in the House of Commons for the first time in 13 years.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politi...10/8675848.stm
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11-05-2010, 09:50 PM
It must be a warrington thing, because i am also very confused. My oh has been trying to explain it all to me, but i still have NO clue.
And yes i am blonde ( but only the dye kind ) lol.
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11-05-2010, 09:52 PM
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11-05-2010, 09:56 PM
i no that much lol i mean in terms of how is it going to effect me as a student nurse ect

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11-05-2010, 10:02 PM
right

well, you may not pay tax on your first ten grand

and all 3 parties pledged to safeguard NHS spending when they cut the national budget.

aside from that, dunno, know sod all about student nurses LOL
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11-05-2010, 10:07 PM
Originally Posted by Krusewalker View Post
right

well, you may not pay tax on your first ten grand

and all 3 parties pledged to safeguard NHS spending when they cut the national budget.

aside from that, dunno, know sod all about student nurses LOL
haha i just am hearing all different things from different people and am really confused.
thanks though
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11-05-2010, 10:08 PM
So will this mean that some members of the lib dems will be on the tories cabinet. Will there be more red tape?
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11-05-2010, 10:11 PM
Originally Posted by Krusewalker View Post
right

well, you may not pay tax on your first ten grand

and all 3 parties pledged to safeguard NHS spending when they cut the national budget.

aside from that, dunno, know sod all about student nurses LOL
Aargh someone giing to help the NHS for a change????
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11-05-2010, 10:16 PM
Summary:

NO party won the election (they needed X number of seats but none of them got it)

Out of the losers, the Conservatives had the most, labour had the second most and Liberal Democrats had the third most.

To form a STRONG govt, they need to get those X number of seats - so a number of parties can join together to meet them (i.e a coalition) OR, if that doesn't come to anything, one of the parties can try to form a minority govt (but they don't last long usually).

In this case The Lib dems could have joined the tories in a coalition, or labour.

They had talks with both, but some senior labour members pretty much made it impossible for there to be a lib/lab coalition so the lib dems negotiated with the tories and came to a deal - as the tories had the most seats it would have always been the 'strongest' coalition.

We don't know right now what deals they did, but one of the first ones is that Nick got us tax-free earnings up to 10K again and some kind of reform on the electoral system also, I think he's the deputy prime minister too.

...this could be quite an exciting govt
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11-05-2010, 10:16 PM
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So will this mean that some members of the lib dems will be on the tories cabinet.

yes


Will there be more red tape?
red tape for what?
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