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04-06-2009, 07:50 PM
Originally Posted by lozzibear 
I dont think they should ever be used. i saw 2 seperate episodes of its me of the dog USA where people had used them.
the other one was where a bulldog had one when she was only 5 months old and it actually burnt a hole in her neck. i think they are horrible and totally inhumane
lauren
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04-06-2009, 07:51 PM
Originally Posted by Tassle
Ok - so when do you condem a method for failing....some dogs take time to learn things....how do you set that time limit.
I do not like E-collars....I have seen them in use on dogs and watched how they are used, I was even on the verge of thinking they had a place in dog training before I became more enlightened. The situation being described is not how e-collars are EVER meant to be used.
I really do think with a stubborn dog like a pitbull, an e-collar in a life and death situation has a place. I think it highly unlikely as well that a properly used e-collar would devastate a robust and well balanced boy like Daddy.
You say that the situation with Daddy was not how e-collars are meant to be used. What is, in your opinion? If at all?
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04-06-2009, 07:54 PM
Originally Posted by Gnasher
Lovely lovely lovely !! I SO enjoyed that Louise, thank you so much. They are absolutely gorgeous dogs. I laughed to watch them, they were so joyous !! And such enthusiastic recalls !!
What fabulous dogs Mals are. Very wolfy
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04-06-2009, 08:08 PM
Originally Posted by mishflynn
At the end of the day if CM is such a fantastic dog communicator.....couldnt he just teach daddy the "leave" command?
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04-06-2009, 08:09 PM
Id not live on a main road because of the cats & possiblity that we could make a mistake & the dogs could get out worse case senario. Hence i would never live on a road,
Nor would i live anywhere with rattlesnakes, i wouldnt walk my dogs any where near alligators or in a desert or on a muddy beach. id not live on a cliff edge, under a volcano or any where that had lots of earth quakes or other natural disasters.I choose safe walks where the dangers are measured. My dogs are trained to recall , instant down & leave command. My dogs are my responsibilty & its my responsibity not to put them in danger . On walks i look out for changing circumstances & react accordling, if this means slipping their leads on for two secs or 15 mins then i will do, because i have a recall of course its easy because i can get my dogs back!!!!
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04-06-2009, 08:10 PM
Originally Posted by Louise13
So they aren't depressed or condemned then
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04-06-2009, 08:14 PM
Originally Posted by Lucky Star
Hardly!
http://www.onetruemedia.com/otm_site...97c54b5ac59e1f
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