weigh him now, and then work out what u would like his ideal weight to be and feed him according to those guidelines on the pack of food. Changing his diet is one thing, but if u want him to lose weight you are going to have to walk him everyday.
i also recommend burns

thanx loads for all ur help, sorry emma posted my reply b4 i saw urs, and n archer no ribs at all but he does look FAT if u get me, but then again no muscles at all lol and can i Burns in the shop? or must it b ordered over net? wat kinda veg would u recommend? n e thing and everything? at moment we doing it for a staffy...but he looks so sad and hungry, i think he may even eat his bowl!! lol than again. and no no idea of his weight, but we r going to try and do the weighing thing suggested by Barbara on another post.......if we can lift him up! lol

you can get Burns in some pet shops otherwise you will need to phone or order online. Their delivery is really quick

cheers carole, we'll go hunting for burns tomoz! lol and he gets enough exercise, but he also get v tired v quick, right we've managed to weigh him...with mum holding him!! haha he is about 5 1/2 stone, which apparently is around 20 kilos, so we just we take 20% off for wat is recommended for a 20 kilo dog?

no, i suspect that he should be (only a guess ) about 17kg, so you need to feed the recommended amount for a 17kg dog

If you want to feed veg, pretty much anything goes, but you should blend it first, as dogs can not digest cellulose.

When I make veggies up, I put in: carrots, celery, apples (but no seeds), broccolli, cauliflower, bananas, lettuce....

IE...if you cannot feel his ribs then yes he is fat.
It is no good going by manufaturers guidelines on feed bags.Every dog is an individual and you cannot guage amounts by what it says on a bag....I used to feed 1/2 of what was recommended and my oldest boy was STILL overweight!
Admit to yourself how much yu have been feeding...treats aswell.Firstly cut back on treats...drastically.Break tit bits into smaller peices. Then you need to reduce his meals...I would reduce by about 25%.You also need to increase exercise.

PS 5 1/2 STONE = 35KG!!!!!!

I'm sorry, but Luna's 25 kg, and that's about 55 lbs. So what is Winston 5½ stone or 20 kg?

20 kg should be about 44 lbs which is just over 3 stone to the site I use to change from kg to lbs.

5½ stone is about 35 kg... My lab only weighs 25kg, so if he's 5½ stone, he's obese.....

I'm sorry.....but then you need to do something.....

u must have got his weight wrong? 5.5 stone is 35 kg !

how much walks does he get everyday