Sorry but it was in the middle of my quote...............

My mistake

I did get paid for being off sick, I would get full pay for 6 months and half pay for the next 6 months and then after that would have no pay. I didn't take a single sick day off work in 11 years. So it doesn't follow that because you can that you will

A lot will not go sick ...granted.but an awful lot do.

And if you dont mind police getting invalided out why not other public sector workers.........

Yep! Totally agree too!! Cameron said he was going to do a bit of sifting through Parliament didn't he, and I wouldn't be surprised if some of the actual mp's start getting outed too!

They're highly overpaid, there's too many of them, some of them can't even warrant their existence imo. Afterall, how many people does it take to push a pen around or move a mouse!!!

So far, this Government is doing everything right for me, and the best place to start is in-house, well done mate!

Whilst of course I sympathise tremendously with Gorden's current situation, I cannot say that these new plans are wrong, how does anybody actually KNOW that yet, it's all assumptions, because nobody knows the outcome do they? Quite honestly, from where I'm sitting, redundancies have gone on for years in the private sector, heck, I was even made redundant myself in my first ever job, let alone what Dave went through, and he too,although not having a degree as such, spent many hours/weeks/months getting through college to get his qualifications to do the job he wanted, same as me,two years at college and then I'm made redundant after 6 months in my first job, so I know all about it, but I was young enough to get on with it, unlike Dave was in his later years.

I'm under the impression and correct me if I am wrong, but people in the public sector always thought they're job was very "safe", if you worked for any Government Department this kind of thing didn't happen to you, and sadly, now it has, you're not as safe as you thought you were because of this new shake up, but of course, people who have never worked in the public sector, have always lived with this hanging over their heads in every job they've taken on.

I don't know the answer, all I know is, we've got far too many people doing far too many jobs, and if cut-backs can be made for the Country (let alone our Government!) to survive, then so be it, it's the very same thing that happens day in day out in companies, when times are hard, cut backs have to be made where they can, and if staff have to go in order to save the company, that's what happens. Dave had to let go a member of staff who had worked for him for 10 years last Christmas, and pay him a considerable amount of money for the priveledge, but if he didn't, he would have gone bust due to the slowdown in work because of the recession. Hard times fall on everybody, nobody can escape from this, I just don't want it to get worse for the whole of the Country if we can get away with making it worse for a few (as awful as it has to be, it's a must in our dire situation).

If Gorden is right, and the schools will have to "buy in" the necessary, they must have done the figures, the will know how much that "necessary" could possibly add up to, and even then, it still works out less than paying somebody a monthly salary to have it in place whether it's needed or not. Not saying what Gorden did was NOT necessary there, I'm just saying in some instances, that could very well be the case.

Long term sick....take out an insurance.

I mean the people who take several weeks off a year with a belly ache or flu and get paid.

Child benefit scrap it and yes I have a child.

Mainly private health insurance would be just the same as the NHS if everyone had it.

One of the delights of a forum like this - people like Jols are permitted to harangue us all from a knowledge-base of NIL.


Snorri

But equally you cannot say they are doing everything right surely? You say that you know what its all about so I do wonder about you original sentiments.

Nope! Never said that, in fact I have always said the opposite, I said I don't know the answer!Plus, I've been asking questions purely because I DON'T know what it's all about

So what about those who are now being made redundant are also in later life having worked all their days to keep a roof over their heads and make a good life for themselves do they not warrent their existance?

I don't know the answer, but I have every faith in them that they DO know the answers. I can only agree with their strategy of getting rid of all those new jobs in the main, that Gordon Brown created in to make himself look good and make the unemployment figures low. I feel a lot of them are totally unnecessary, as does the Government, and if we're going to have to make cuts,then you make them foremost in the places you can do without them surely? From Lynn's previous post, it would seem though, that it's the Councils themselves who are the ones picking them out willy nilly, in other words, the Government has said you've got to make cuts, here are our suggestions, and perhaps more thought should be put into where they are actually making these cuts? I don't know, I'm not in Government, but I do see/hear about a lot of wastage going on, which as I said before, is more unlikely to happen in private companies. From what I know (which isn't a lot), we have these administrative bodies set up, to control various other bodies in the council, and then we have another adversary of that even sometimes, so to me, the only sensible way of doing it, is to strip it all back, see who can run these various departments on their own, keep those people in, probably the people who have been in the job for years (hopefully!) and ok, you lose maybe 2/3rds of the workforce for that particular area, BUT, it's a cut that has to be made, and if further on down the line, you find you need a bit of help, then you buy it in at a drastically reduced price than what you have been paying out month after month.


I think most agree that something needs to be done but this slash and burn technique appears to be a knee jerk reaction to appease the public more than an indepth economic strategy to not only reduce the deficit but to grow the economy.

Lots of people have opinions and I enjoy reading them all.

And we're entitled to disagree with them.


Snorri