Just watched this clip. I think Cesar done fine. All the struggling is on the dog's part- Cesar isn't really doing anything. Why should you not ask a dog such as this to submit? He's acting like a loony. Not only is the dog safer afterwards, but he's relaxed and happier. He had so much horrible energy built up in him. Teaching the dog to lie down might get the dog to lie down, but would not cure his bad psychological state, his aggression at all. What if he isn't motivated by treats, or won't stay lying down because he doesn't really respect you? Any calmness caused by lying down would only last until the dog got up again. Should these people just carrying on living with a dog that they never know when it's going to try and attack them? Or should they go and see a trainer who will no doubt spend the rest of it's life battling with this dog, with it kept in a muzzle, never walked, with the owners having to remember endless instructions, pleading with their dog to obey commands...

If you'd take the time to find out more about him you would realise that this question is a bit silly. He's been around dogs all his life. He grew up on a farm in Mexico with a large pack of dogs. He went to America, penniless, and got a job in a grooming parlour, then a job in a kennels. Next he started to rehabilitate dogs (his first pack was comprised of Rotties) using the methods he had learned from his Grandfather and from what he had learned by observing a pack of domesticated dogs during his childhood and adolescent years.

Just because you don't like the way he pats a dogs head you think he exploits dogs for financial gain? I find this a bit far fetched. He just doesn't believe that people need to be drooling all over their dogs every second of the day for the dogs to be happy.

I see a lot of 'I think he looks like....' and 'I think this dog feels like....' These statements are purely subjective. As I keep saying you can put any slant you like on what you think someone looks like!

TBH I couldn't care less if you like CM or his methods. Makes no difference to me, I will always use his techniques. However, it gets my goat when people make totaly unfounded claims based on very little or no knowledge of the man or his techniques.

I said I was going to leave this thread alone but I just can't lol I need Dogsey Rehab lol

Cesar Milan is that last person on earth you could call a novice. Is it just because he dares to do things which don't fit with the current retaliation against 'old fashioned' training methods? (not that he's a trainer anyway) Just because he isn't treating them and being 'nice' all the time?
If he walked into the house and cuddled the dogs, and fed them more excited energy by playing with them, smiling, and cooing at them- do you think he would look like a leader? Dogs aren't innocent, little cuddly babies that live on love. They need all that excited, aggressive, frustrated energy drained out, bad behaviours corrected, and then for the leader to help them move forward. Then the dog will be truly happy.
That's not to say you can never cuddle your dog, but they should have the exercise and discipline first.

So sorry you think my opinions are silly!!!!!! : sorry for ASKING a question.

No its because he HANDLES & TOUCHES in ...IMO...in a novicey way.

Thats only my opinion

Mishflynn, I'm sorry you take my posts so personally. I've explained several times to you about CM's techniques and philosophy, but you don't want to listen or learn. I understand from your previous posts that you are agitated and maybe not in the right frame of mind to take it in.

I agree that it is your OPINION - correct me if I'm wron but that is exactly what I was saying in my post!

Can you explain what you mean by this? Or is it just a gut feeling you have about him?