Or hanging a dog on national TV?

rune

Ahahahahahaha!!!

I tend to say "wrong" to mine when training them something new and they aren't getting it right, and use "no" for occasions when they really are doing something I want them to stop doing immediately.

But it is not the WORD that is the issue. It is the TONE of the voice.

So is NO or WRONG used as a NRM (No reward marker) or an interruptor or as positive punishment (either in and of itself or as a predicator of something else) .............?

I tend to use OI!!!! rather than No. Because it`s easier to interrupt and refocus than to actually stop a dog doing something. Probably laziness, but wth....
I hope this doesn`t give weight to the `he knows he`s done wrong` brigade.

Yes I agree, I say "ah ah" to interrupt, say, trying to jump on the furniture, but wouldn't use it as a NRM.

Actually, putting thought into it, I often just say the dogs name (in a happy tone) to get it's attention away from the unwanted behaviour and onto me?

I don't really bother with a NRM, actually? Is it really needed do you think?

I always took 'positive training' to mean positive reward and negative punishment. I try and minimise the punishment part but of course it still has to be there - often they are hand in hand


Yes exactly, and the words mean nothing to the dog until you teach them anyways

lol I bet we have all used an emmergancy 'WTF are you just about to do' noise
I didnt take the time to think of a nice fluffy response for Mia when I saw her grinning up at me with a live power cable in her mouth!!

But in general I try and teach an 'interuptor' from Kikopup I use the kissy noise, like anything trained well it really does get a whiplash turn away from the stupid thing they were about to do

My interruptor is "Excuse ME!"

Plenty of people dont need them
I use it kinda more in clicker training cos I am way more vocal than you are supposed to be - giving them loads of feedback
'thats it, clever dogs, nearly there, oh you are so smart' when they are getting close to the click
and a quiet 'no' and I move away for a sec when the choice - for what I am looking for at the time - is wrong
Its not a 'punishment' because say for example I want the right paw on something and they give the left
'no' makes them try something different but dosent make the left paw less likely in the future - if that makes sense

lol I like that