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04-03-2011, 07:59 PM
Originally Posted by Gnasher 
You are too idealistic Mish - see everything in black and white (no reference intended to your lovely dogs!!). I don't know how you can insinuate that Adam is not a dog lover. You may not agree with him in any shape or form, that is not the issue here, but to suggest that he is a dog abuser just because you, and admittedly many others, do not agree with his methods is tantamount to libel!
You are lucky in your choice of breed - who whilst do not come into the world ready-trained, are extremely biddable, with a huge desire to please their humans and whilst I have known many collies with issues, I CANNOT think of one who was actually disobedient. Sometimes we have to seemingly be cruel to be kind
......lol & you know nothing about collies, obvisley.
Arent they in your dogs, Hal was a Collie X afterall
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04-03-2011, 08:19 PM
ATD x
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04-03-2011, 08:28 PM
Originally Posted by TheABCs
I will be observing with interest the controversy threads - now that there is no person to argue with, once everyone's agreed with each other, things will go very quiet...
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04-03-2011, 08:29 PM
Originally Posted by ATD
So if we disagree with the norm we get banned on others perceptions? No I don't agree with e collars but then again I use methods people disagree with so will I get banned as to some of you I am not a dog lover
ATD x
Edit - this isnt down to perceptions, AP put it in balck and white alongside video footage..
