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Originally Posted by
wilbar
Me too ~ I'm an animal lover
I've joined in with some of the debates in the past that have got heated but my New Year resolution is to try to stop getting bogged down in the threads that go round & round in circles & deteriorate into personal insult throwing. I'm doing "fairly well" so far & have read some long threads with twitching fngers ready to blast off, & even typed out some responses, but then deleted them! And I've found, if you wait a bit, someone else comes along as says more or less what I was going to say anyway
Ditto, great minds think alike
I also had this (pre) new years resolution and i have also almost slipped up but fortunately deleted what i was typing after a couple sentences
I wholeheartedly applaud rune's thread that was started to deflect the horrible things that were directed at the poor lady going through a dreadful time ~ it was the first time ever I've ever used the report button on a post ~ but even that thread went downhill quickly, with the same posters getting involved.
Abso-damn-lutely....i too pressed the report button for the very first time ever. Twas appalled.
I will, however, do my best to point out considerately, if I think someone's doing something harmful to their pets.
You have always done this Wilbar. I have alwasy cited you as one of the members whom is the best example of how to oppose stuff in an actual effective, sensible, and rational way
Not by condemning that person, but just by pointing out the consequences of their actions. And wherever possible, I'll try to give an alternative & kinder way to solve their problem ~ point them in the direction of help.
I have made this point numerous times, and i will continue to do so, but i still dont expect the usual bunch of people that think condemning the messenger is as useful as condemning the message will evolve from such behaviours any time soon.
I say this because when you point such concepts out, you are usually told you must have sympathy for the animal abuser then....etc etc....ho hum
I just put it down to the modern social ailment of everyone being angry and dogmatic and think cesera.
It does cross over into the real dog world sometimes as well...i lived in one area with an x police dog trainer dog training school. He wasnt completely yank and pull etc, he preferred choke chains and no treats, but if his members didnt use chokers and did use treats, he didnt mind. So a bit of a mixed approach.
Then we had several reward and treat based classes only.
Everyone remembered the policeman's name and what he taught them, not many people remembered the names of the other trainers or much of what went on.
The difference?
The policeman had a superb personality, very very funny and entertaining man whom made everyone laugh and feel at ease in class.
The other ladies tended to tell people off, lecture, tut, frown, huddle in the corner and point at people whom got stressed and did a lead jerk etc.
Is this the point when I'm told "well we arent interested in your justifications for lead jerking and choke chains"???