Ooops, you mean this one


Sorry, should I have quoted all of it, because the above was what caught my attention, and subsequently formed my reply

Check back a couple of pages on General Dog Chat. The thread is 'Frey has broken a leg', or words to that effect.

I know they did what they had to do with the dog, I don't like the fact they just outright shoot it before gathering the facts. I'd be interested to see what they class as an "agitated state".

The family may well have their own cross to bear but I still places my bets on the full responsibilty being pointed at the dog and not the owners. A four year old child should not be left alone with a dog of any breed and unfortunately that appears to be what has happened.

Now the stories will flood in that bull breed dogs should all be banned and that they are vicious killers and the familys guilt will be eased by the media convincing them that they did nothing wrong and that it's just the way these bull breeds are.

I think you will find if the animals are safe within there own field then no they will not be shot for trampling people to death,
but if animals break free from there field, are a danger to others, the police marksman is there in a blink of an eye

my thoughts are with the family, its such a terrible thing to happen,

I think you've answered you own question.

You have laid the blame at the feet of genetics and enviroment.

How do you know that both of these factors are at play? How do you know that one factor did not predominate over the other? Or that one factor was not wholly responsible? How can you be sure that a well-bred dog in a similar enviroment might not also have posed a risk. Or that an equally ill-bred (if it was ill-bred) dog might not pose an equal risk even in a different enviroment?

To simply say the dog was unstable is analogous to saying the crashed car was unsafe. It doesn't advance our understanding unless we know how and why things went wrong and trying to ascertain that with a major part of the puzzle destroyed just makes things harder and our conclusions less reliable.


Possibly an investigation would have yeilded no useful information but to throw away the opportunity with even trying is to doom us to repeating the same old mistakes.

Have they said what type the dog was?

Thanks I see what you mean!

Pit Bull type according to some reports, but I don't think it has been 'officially' announced yet.

And, in so doing, you have mispresented my position. In the same post I said...

But I'm glad that you now realise that you did quote me (even if it was out of context).

They are trying to establish if it was an illegal breed or type. The news also said there were complaints to the council in February this year about excessive dog breeding at the address.