Brierly

Just look it up, if you have the knowledge you say you have its easy!

Google it even.
Lots of interesting studies come up on google.

Dominance study is a myth
dr casey

http://tinyurl.com/35qofao



dr bradshaw

http://tinyurl.com/369ngb7



dr blackwell

http://tinyurl.com/3xshboo

Adam

Yes but how many have YOU trained?

Anyone can talk about the THEORY (or what they BELIEVE to be the theory behind training dogs) but that is a whole different ball game to ACTUALLY training dogs to compete at the highest level in any of these disciplines!

I know that YOU have not competed yourself in ANY of these sports, and I KNOW that you are not a recognised TRAINER, tracklayer or judge in any of these sports, so what actual empirical knowledge do you have (apart from spectating)!?

How many dogs have you trained not to kill sheep?

How many dogs have you trained with e collars?

Doesn't stop you does!

Adam I see you have posted more links (see post 761)to the pathetic and childish attempts by the nasty little tramp in the bad wig who likes to strap e collars near to a dogs genitals to discredit the Bristol University dominance study.
Adam for me any credibility you originally had has completely disappeared.

I note you haven't bothered to answer my queries posted above post 747. Tell us do about your use of two e collars on a dog at one time, I am sure members here would be interested in knowing about your extreme training techniques.

Adam, your assertion is that Skinner advises that all positive reinforcement starts with negative punishment. How others interpret Skinner's words aren't of interest (if that's what these references refer to), but the word of the man himself is of interest. I've never read during all my studies or even when reading for interest where Skinner has said this - hence my request for a reference for it.

To me it's a barmy premise which is why I would like to see Skinner's take on it (if he indeed said this - and I do have grave doubts)

In a nutshell.
Adam, you HAVE to find this, to back up your claims - why not go back to the tramp and get his exact reference?



Wys
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.... a reinforcer is not necessarily a reward, a reinforcer is merely something which strengthens a behaviour
See Skinner....

like the poor dogs you train Adam see the video of your little JR who appears to be scared to move in case he elicits yet another shock from the e collar he is forced to wear...

Bit mean of you...it was only a question

Adam it doesn't look like I am going to get a reply from you to my queries .

If you do get around to answering my queries in addition to my previous question about your use of two e collars at once to shock a dog can you also confirm whether or not you intend to put e collars on all your dogs not as part of any training but in order to promote them because you and your mentor who you quoted in your post above (the tramp in the bad wig who likes to inflict pain on dogs by strapping an e collar near to their genitals) are worried that the Welsh ban on e collars could spell the end to them in the UK ?

TWO e-collars on one dog?

I find the use of one repugnant enough, but the idea of two has made me feel nauseous. With so many welfare concerns about the use of e-collars, anyone using TWO has to be some kind of psycho and should be reported for animal abuse. And if Adam does go that far, I really don't want to see him on here any more; that's abhorrent, and within the reach of the Animal Welfare Act.