Probably Shaun Ellis? Not all omega dogs are the punchbags per se. In particular, the name you might be looking for is "diffuser". I have explained about the diffuser in my reply to Sarah

No, it is not acceptable in our eyes, I quite agree Ben. But you cannot change a dog's rank, how he or she is perceived by other dogs, only he or she can do that. We can help by feeding them "high rank" food - which is why Tai became so much more confident when we adopted him and put him onto BARF - but you cannot turn a diffuser into a higher ranking beta, however much you might want to. No harm though in doing everything you can to boost her confidence as much as possible.

Just out of interest what scientific research are you using for these titles?? Because I have only heard them used by 1 person who, last I saw knows pretty much nothing about dogs and all his research is flawed because it is dont on tamed wolves that he himself trains

Are you saying in this case the owner should just live with the fact her dog is going to bug every dog she meets until she gets attacked?? - so they should just put up with her getting attacked by every single dog??
Or feed her a raw diet so magicaly she will learn approrprate greetings??

For everyone else
How would you deal with a puppy whos greeting to humans was OTT??
Easy - trained in any puppy class
I would have thought same with a puppy whos greeting to dogs is OTT

Lol, maybe this is what Wolf was actually doing. I never met a greedier dog

We actually took to removing Wolf from the situation if he started his OTT appeasement stuff once we realised that was what was causing other dogs to attack him. It didn't make much of a difference in all honesty. It toned it down a little but we simply could not stop it happening short of never allowing him around other dogs. OTT greetings to humans were stopped quickly and easily though. With dogs it wasn't just greeting, he would do it ALL the time if we didn't distract or remove him. It seemed like an obsession with him. Maybe clicker training could have helped but it seemed so deeply ingrained in him that I'm really not sure.

Wolf was very well socialised with other dogs from a young age. He wasn't fearful or anxious around them despite his behaviour, quite the opposite in fact. He seemed very confident with them. He was bomb proof in every aspect of life, nothing whatsoever upset him. He wasn't the sharpest knife in the drawer but once he knew a command it never occurred to him to disobey it. His blind obedience probably saved him from being attacked even more as he could be recalled from anything or put into a down while sprinting across the field to see another dog. Or while swimming across the river for that matter As I say, not the sharpest knife.

Even without getting into the whole rank debate I find stuff like this fascinating.

Why not address him by name? Shaun Ellis. Who has a pack of domesticated wolves in Devon for sure, but also lived with wild wolves in the States, from whom he learned much. He is fascinating to talk to actually, so unless you have done so, it is probably a bit unfair to condemn him as being ignorant or talking rubbish.

No, of course I'm not saying that if you have an omega dog, you should just accept that it will be regularly attacked, nor will just sticking it on the BARF diet miraculously improve a dog's rank. What it will do though is improve the dog's health, and this MIGHT (I say might, note) help the true rank of the dog to be exposed, as happened with Tai. When he first came to us, he was not interested in the opposite sex, was obedient, although had no manners. For an entire male not to be interested in a bitch in full season tells me there is something wrong. Within a few weeks of being raw fed, he discovered the Joys of Life and became extremely interested in bitches about to come on, are on, or are just tailing off, just as he should be. His poor diet was suppressing, for want of a better word, his confidence, again for want of a better word.

Must get to work now, else I won't have a job!!

Well, I'm going to be honest. The entire concept of "alpha and omega" dogs is utter rubbish. This is not some sort of "pack ranking" BS you're seeing here. What this is, is a dog who has extremely inappropriate greeting behavior. I find many dogs do. Some jump immediately on other dogs. Some push their face hard into the other dog while sniffing. Some come straight on. And some lick and mouth the other dog excessively.

If I had an inappropriate greeter, I would not allow that dog to greet until he/she remained calm. I would put the dog in a sit and allow the other dog to approach. If he begins to show signs of his inappropriate greeting, then I would simply back him up a few paces and have the other person stop their dog from approaching.

Rinse and repeat.

Once the other dog can approach and doesn't get the inappropriate greeting, I would allow them to meet for just a moment, before calling the dog to me and rewarding heavily.

Basically, inappropriate greeting = getting pulled away and not allowed to get to know the other dog.

Remaining calm = getting to meet the other dog.

I would heavily reward the dog for a more appropriate greeting. And some of that reward might come from the other dog as well. Not getting attacked and having a good meeting can be a reward.

wtf is an omega dog?
I`ve seen the film (Omega Man) which was good but omega dog seems to have passed me by.

I honestly can't remember where I heard the term or much about it. About the only thing I do remember is that supposedly the omega dog is the lowest ranked dog and pretty much has a "kick me" sign on its back. It's not something I've seen mentioned on forums before that I can remember.

I'm not getting into a debate about ranks though, I can't say I really think about them in real life. I had a dog who behaved very much like the one Denise describes so I'm interested.

Crysania: I'm very confused here! I thought you didn't believe in controlling your dog, but just let her do her own thing?

You're not quite understanding me at all, are you? I don't control her. That implies a level of power that I don't use. I allow her to make decisions (approach the dog nicely or not) and reward the right ones and work on the ones that can cause problems or that I consider a problem.

I don't pull her back and hold her tight or not let her meet other dogs. I don't make all the decisions for her. I don't correct her (i.e. leash pop) when she makes a decision I don't like. I "control" her the way parents "control" their kids. I show her how I'd like her to act and let her make the decisions. When she makes the ones that coincide with what I think is correct, she gets a huge reward.

I don't consider that control. Control, as I stated on ANOTHER POST, is a power struggle and there is no power struggle there.

Why am I having to rehash this when I'm just trying to offer advice? You seem to think I have, essentially, an out of control dog because I choose not to get into some alpha/dominance/control relationship with her. This is very far from reality. But this post is not about ME and my relationship with my dog.