you can't say he is cruel or inhumane.

If they didnt have pack instincts how do you explain why then my dog will live harmoniously with my other dog but hates any strange dogs?
Lack of socialisation, upbringing, difference between inter-dog training at home and outside, style of training, routines, defensive handling, bad experiences, environmental cues, individual likes and dislikes, domestic dynamics, breed preferences, sexual considerations, smells, communication issues, insecurity away from the home, etc, etc....
To name a few...lots of potential reasons for your scenario.
I've worked with plenty of dogs that are ok with some and not others.
Couldn't give you a definitive answer unless i had a full and frank breakdown of all the details regarding your dogs, as canine behaviour issues can involve many inter-relating factors, as they are all individuals, and not mechanised beings whose very breath and move can be narrowed down to pack/dominance/alpha theory a'la CM and JF.
Or will accept the family cats but chase any strange ones?

Sorry, but I think we can say he is cruel!
He uses prong collars on dogs!
How is having spikes shoved in your neck not cruel?!
Would you put a shock collar on your child if they didn't stop crying, or didn't behave? Nope, don't think so....so how is it not cruel to put one on a dog?

He forces dogs onto the floor and holds them down!
He kicks dogs up the **** - not even sure why the hell he does that, but it's been on his programs!

He used a loose fitting prong collar on a rottie owned by a lady not capable of handling the power of the dog. The collar was already being used by the lady, Cesar only continued using it on this occasion as it was a tool she felt comfortable with. He showed her the correct way to use it so as not to cause any distress or pain to her dog He doesnt endorse them, he prefers a simple, loose rope.

Lastly, you can't of watched much of the show or you would know that he never kicks a dog up the ****. He uses a gentle tap with the back of his heal from behind him, you try kicking hard from that position! Its a simple & effective way of distracting the dog from its negative behaviour whilst still moving forward on the lead. I use it with my dogs when they are distracted & it works a treat, infact Cesars methods are the only thing that has ever stopped my dogs pulling & doing their own things.

Hi,

As already stated YOU make the rules not your dog. The problem tends to arise when our dogs do somethign we DON'T wnat them to do and we don't teach them to do something differnet instead. So they learn that the unwanted behaviour is OK and we get all narky about our dogs misbehaving!

At only 13 weeks old he's at an ideal stage for learning. He'll pick things up like adry sponge picks up water. SBTs are very intelligent and are easy to train (IMO).

Remember though that puppies do play with their mouths so you will get nipped and chewed occasionally partly through play befcause that's what dogs do and partly due to teething as he grows. Make sure that you teach him about bite inhibition and always do everythign in a positive way.

If he's doing something you don't like tell him "no", "leave", "down" or whatever it is you want him to do. Once he's done the "GOOD" thing then reward him.

ALso, see about getting him into a local training class. At 13 weeks he should have had his 2nd lot of vaccinatons and be OK to go out and about now. He'll learn all about dog socialisation, as will you and you can pick up ideas and tips from the other dog owners as well as the trainers.

Try to look at everyone's training methods objectively. I personally used to watch CM but don't anymore since doing as suggeste and watching with the sound off. Some of what he says makes sense at firest - such as our dogs pick up on how we feel. I believe this to be true because of some of the behaviours of my dogs recently and my home situation.
On the other hand, I don't beleive that eating first, or walking through a door first makes me any less of the boss in my house.

So long as your dog knows you are the boss ir you control the resources - food, walkies time, playtime (you also decide when it stops too), you can't go far wrong.

Don't worry too much about things right now just enjoy your pup and let him be a dog. Make sure he doesn't get into bad habits or form bad manners and you'll have a lovely, friendly, well mannered, well socialised SBT that will be a credit to you.

Good luck.

Laura xx

He used a loose fitting prong collar on a rottie owned by a lady not capable of handling the power of the dog. The collar was already being used by the lady, Cesar only continued using it on this occasion as it was a tool she felt comfortable with. He showed her the correct way to use it so as not to cause any distress or pain to her dog He doesnt endorse them, he prefers a simple, loose rope.

My friends 18 month old daughter kept biting her the other day, in the end she bit her back (only gently but enough for her to understand), same principle as a shock collar. Neither method causes pain, they just give enough of a sensation to stop the behaviour! In the cases Cesar used a shock collar on his dog it was to save their lives incase they came into contact with deadly snakes.

When he 'pins' dogs down they are in a heightened state of anxiety & there is no positive behaviour to reinforce. He holds them by their necks in the same way a mother dog does with her pups. He strokes & talks calmly to them until they relax then gently releases them. At this point he can then reward their behaviour positively.

Lastly, you can't of watched much of the show or you would know that he never kicks a dog up the ****. He uses a gentle tap with the back of his heal from behind him, you try kicking hard from that position! Its a simple & effective way of distracting the dog from its negative behaviour whilst still moving forward on the lead. I use it with my dogs when they are distracted & it works a treat, infact Cesars methods are the only thing that has ever stopped my dogs pulling & doing their own things.

I feel sad that you have only found these methods have worked for you and hope that one day you manage to find a good positive trainer who can help you develop a good bond with your dogs without resorting to what is shown in this programme...

BTW....did you seek professional help before trying these methods?

Yes as it happens we did seek professional help, we watched all of CM's programs & read his books.