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Ripsnorterthe2nd
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24-01-2011, 10:25 PM
We had some new neighbours move in many years ago and within a few weeks they were complaining about the Church bells waking them up every Sunday morning.

We lived on Church Lane.
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25-01-2011, 01:05 PM
Originally Posted by Ripsnorterthe2nd View Post
We had some new neighbours move in many years ago and within a few weeks they were complaining about the Church bells waking them up every Sunday morning.

We lived on Church Lane.

My favourite morning sounds:

1. chickens clucking and cocks crowing.
2. the sea (unfortunately we live in Northants, but one day!!)
3. church bells.
4. dawn chorus and bird song generally.
5. livestock noises in general - cows, sheep, horses.

This is what the countryside is all about - Nature's sounds, rather than manmade sounds.

I cannot understand townies who want to do the Good Life, move out to our beautiful countryside, and then moan about horse poo, cocks crowing, bells ringing and cows mooing. The funniest of all is when they are out and about in their Range Rovers and other posh 4 x 4's. They will not move over onto the muddy verge on a narrow country lane - i drive a small Nissan Micra, and flatly refuse to risk getting stuck for a townie ponce in a Range Rover, and words have known to be exchanged during such altercations 'cos i refuse to budge!!
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25-01-2011, 01:06 PM
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We had some new neighbours move in many years ago and within a few weeks they were complaining about the Church bells waking them up every Sunday morning.

We lived on Church Lane.
Bit of a clue in the name then!! The human race never cease to amaze me
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25-01-2011, 01:09 PM
another pet hate of mine! Owners of bitches who are in full season and they go off on one because Tai is showing a lot of interest.

Sorry - going off thread there, but that is guaranteed to wind me up like a clockwork orange!!
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25-01-2011, 01:24 PM
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The funniest of all is when they are out and about in their Range Rovers and other posh 4 x 4's. They will not move over onto the muddy verge on a narrow country lane - i drive a small Nissan Micra, and flatly refuse to risk getting stuck for a townie ponce in a Range Rover, and words have known to be exchanged during such altercations 'cos i refuse to budge!!
Probably in my top 5 Pet hate!!!

Don't buy a 4x4 if your not prepared to get some dirt on it, so move the **** over! Makes me SO angry!!!! I only have a Lupo (a tab bigger than a Mirca, but smaller than a pug 206), I am NOT going down a ditch when you are driving a brand new landrover disco, or range rover or a flippin' porsch cayenne down the country lane! My bite has been know to be worse than my bark

Rant over.
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25-01-2011, 01:56 PM
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In puppies or adult dogs? parvo has always been a potential risk for young dogs (especially unvaccinated puppies, obviously), but given it's rarity in adult dogs, I can't imagine your vet was talking about immunized adult dogs.

On that assumption, I'd better tell my vet she's wasting her time vaccinating my 2yr old in the future then?? I've SEEN parvo cases downstairs in my vet hospital when I went there, and they were ALL adult looking dogs to me! I'm guided by my vet anyways and always will be!
So your phylosphy here is, your dogs are ok coz they are adults who might be possibly carriers of the disease, but it's ok to leave their sh*t lying around for the young puppies to tread in or eat?!
Salmonella and e-coli are also rare in adult dogs. That is why dogs are able to be fed raw diets with no ill effect. A dogs internal ability to deal with harmful pathogens is much more advanced than our own.

Again, I should have told my vet when she took bloods from my 18 month old and 12 year old dogs to test for e-coli, salmonella etc. coz again, she seems to have been just wasting her time No wonder she never found it then, and to think, I had to pay for that service!



You are lucky that you have dogs that are interested in such temptations.

Yup! We passed a whole dead rabbit this morning, right on the path, fresh blood gushing out of it, but dogs were told to leave it, sorted!

Anyway, as far as I am concerned, poo (dog and otherwise) is just something you have to deal with when walking rurally. If it is a real problem in one particular area, you have the option of walking elsewhere.
Yes I do, but everywhere else seems to be full of it too! There's no escape here in the country, coz people come here from the town and think it's "normal" to leave it here, it's only the people who LIVE here and walk there twice a day who bother to pick it up!
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25-01-2011, 04:06 PM
Originally Posted by Ripsnorterthe2nd View Post
We had some new neighbours move in many years ago and within a few weeks they were complaining about the Church bells waking them up every Sunday morning.

We lived on Church Lane.
A particular farm i shoot over gets complaints about his bird scarers going off during the day from nearby residents and it will get worse because they're building a load more houses which border right on the land!

A lot of town/city people have no concept of rural life and often it isnt ignorance,but just being plain thick.Im sure they think the countryside is deathly quiet which is far from the truth.The ones which do annoy me are those who dont take notice of signs and wander into cattle fields with their dogs off lead.
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25-01-2011, 05:08 PM
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A particular farm i shoot over gets complaints about his bird scarers going off during the day from nearby residents and it will get worse because they're building a load more houses which border right on the land!

A lot of town/city people have no concept of rural life and often it isnt ignorance,but just being plain thick.Im sure they think the countryside is deathly quiet which is far from the truth.The ones which do annoy me are those who dont take notice of signs and wander into cattle fields with their dogs off lead.
... and then forget to shut the gate on their way in!!! or as they run out when the bull starts chasing them
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25-01-2011, 05:40 PM
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Yes I do, but everywhere else seems to be full of it too! There's no escape here in the country, coz people come here from the town and think it's "normal" to leave it here, it's only the people who LIVE here and walk there twice a day who bother to pick it up!
Helena, parvo/e-coli/salmonella, etc., ARE rare in adult dogs -- it is a medical fact. Read any veterinary text/journal/canine medical book and they will all confirm this.

Dog mess is more of an eyesore and an inconvenience for us than it is a problem for our dogs.
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25-01-2011, 07:25 PM
You think YOU are right, so why do they have By Laws as well as the Fouling of Dogs Act 1996 then??? Why do they have dog bins at every car park across the South Downs where we enjoy walking our dogs then???

QUOTE:"Bye laws
Dogs (Fouling of Land)


Each day dogs produce vast amounts of excrement. Much of this is left on footpaths and playing fields and at best can cover shoes and clothes and at worst can lead to blindness due to an infection called 'Toxocara canis'.

Council's can now designate land under The Dogs (Fouling of Land) Act 1996. The designated land includes roads, footpaths, school playing fields, sports fields and parks.

It is an offence for a dog owner not to clean up after their dog in these areas. Failure to comply can result in a prosecution and fine up to £1,000. It is no defence to claim ignorance of the dog's actions.

Dogs (Fouling of Land) Order 2002
The London Borough of Barking and Dagenham Council (in this Order called 'the council') hereby make the following Order:

1.The land described in the schedule below being land in the area of the council which is land to which the Dogs (Fouling of Land) Act 1996 applies, is hereby designated for the purposes of that Act
2.This Order may be cited as The London Borough of Barking and Dagenham (Fouling of Land) Order 2002 and shall come into force on the 7 February 2002
Solutions
•If you have a garden encourage the dog to 'go' there. You can then bury the mess or alternatively clean it up and bin it
•If you walk your dog always carry the means to clear up after your dog. A simple plastic bag will do the trick or obtain poop scoops from a local pet shop. Remember to take a bag or poop scoop like you would remember a lead
•Every time your dog fouls 'bag it and bin it'. Take the poop scoop home and dispose of it there. Remember rain does not wash the problem away
•Never let your dog out alone to 'go to the loo'
It is every dog owners duty to clean up after their dog.



There are no excuses, fouling is unacceptable!


Contact with canine excrement can lead to blindness due to an infection called 'Toxocara canis'.

Schedule
and designated by description
•All carriageways with a speed limit of 40mph or less, including adjoining footways (pavements), footpaths, road gutters, cycle paths or lanes, and verges, both grass and ornamental
•All parks, open spaces, picnic sites, country parks, nature reserves, pleasure grounds, gardens, recreation and sports grounds open to the public
•All amenity areas, whether planted, grassed, paved or concreted including all housing estates
•All cemeteries, churchyards and consecrated ground
•All children's play parks
•All shopping precincts and pedestrianised areas
•All car parks and public vehicle parking areas
•All land and paths associated with allotments
All footpaths, bridleways and rights of way•All alleys, public walks, passageways and rights of way that are not in private ownership" UNQUOTE

Maybe you don't walk on rights of way then???

If you look on Pubmed you will see that dogs harbour salmonella along with other nasties too, and you can't get more legit than Pubmed coz that's where my vet shows me stuff! Yes, I read too!

We will never agree on this, I think it's vile to leave it lying around anywhere where other people/dogs walk, and I'm in the majority here, not to mention the fact it's illegal to do so on PUBLIC RIGHTS OF WAY which you should be on as well as me when out walking your dogs, unless you live on a farm perhaps???

I'm bored with this now, it's a pet hate of mine, it's obviously not one of yours, you will continue to let your dogs foul where other people and children walk, coz you're just too darn lazy to bag it and bin it or take it home, end of!
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