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24-10-2010, 09:26 AM
Wow your brave having a little puppy and a human baby!
Some brilliant advise already been given, all I would say is don't expect miracles, some pups take longer than others to housetrain, but be consistent, ignore the bad as she won't understand why she is being told off, use positive reinforcement, when she does good things praise heavily. Use a crate or pen for time out so she can have her own space, don't over exercise her as that will stimulate her too much, but use her brain it tires them more quickly. Take her to puppy classes when she has had her 2nd jabs so she can socialise and learn to be incredibly patient!
Good luck!!
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24-10-2010, 09:29 AM

omg - would it be worth putting puppy advice into a separate section, with a sticky about the best books or articles to read?
The OP must be totally confused, having received the most helpful and also the most dreadful advice I`ve seen for ages.

Merciful heavens, guys, walloping puppies with rolled up newspapers, shouting NO! at them like they speak English, - well at least we haven`t had our usual friend from across the pond suggesting you shut her in a crate on a wire grid for 8 hours, or chain her to the floor.......

Please, OP - get yourself a few good modern puppy books (NOTHING by Cesar Milan) and read them all, then make your mind up what seems reasonable and fair (remembering that no-one knows your household and your puppy as well as you).

You might also invest in a play pen - for the baby or the puppy - because you cannot deal with a crawler and a nipper at the same time.
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24-10-2010, 10:11 AM
Oh dear I hope you didnt mean me, I said a firm NO I didnt say shout NO, all my dogs know what I mean when I say NO, they also know when I say "dont you dare" so they do sort of speak english
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24-10-2010, 10:25 AM
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Oh dear I hope you didnt mean me, I said a firm NO I didnt say shout NO, all my dogs know what I mean when I say NO, they also know when I say "dont you dare" so they do sort of speak english
Glad it wasn't just me that thought that I said a sharp command - but not shouting.

I only have to stand up and my dogs know I mean business without raising my voice
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24-10-2010, 10:44 AM
Originally Posted by ClaireandDaisy View Post

omg - would it be worth putting puppy advice into a separate section, with a sticky about the best books or articles to read?
The OP must be totally confused, having received the most helpful and also the most dreadful advice I`ve seen for ages.

Merciful heavens, guys, walloping puppies with rolled up newspapers, shouting NO! at them like they speak English, - well at least we haven`t had our usual friend from across the pond suggesting you shut her in a crate on a wire grid for 8 hours, or chain her to the floor.......

Please, OP - get yourself a few good modern puppy books (NOTHING by Cesar Milan) and read them all, then make your mind up what seems reasonable and fair (remembering that no-one knows your household and your puppy as well as you).

You might also invest in a play pen - for the baby or the puppy - because you cannot deal with a crawler and a nipper at the same time.
I dont know if you meant me either I didn't mean for her to shout NO I meant for her to sternly say No. Maybe should have made that more clear, I know they don't speak English but they do eventually learn commands, so I basically give the No as a warning that she will be removed. It has been working but I am clicker training as well, it also helps for lots of situations outside when she's up to things she should not be.

I use my kitchen like a crate I remove her to there when she becomes to much and she goes to her bed when the baby becomes to much. When my son has hes afternoon nap I do the clicker training

Yes it is hard work but i think once OP starts some training and gets a routine in place it will get easier.
It really is like having twins though, baby pulls the nappy's out she rips them up lool I call them a tag team
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24-10-2010, 10:47 AM

ah... the paranoia-
actually, no, I wasn`t but...
with a person who has a new puppy, it it always helpful to point out basics to them, which that the dog isn`t `doing wrong` - a puppy poops where it poops, it`s us that insist it does it in a particular place. So teaching the puppy a `I`m Angry` word is a little self-defeating, because the pup doesn`t see pooping as `wrong`.
Dogs are creatures of habit. If you continually encourage the pup to `go` in a certain spot, and eliminate scents in areas there have been accidents, it isn`t necessary to turn it into a battle where one side doesn`t understand the rules.
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24-10-2010, 10:51 AM
Originally Posted by ClaireandDaisy View Post

ah... the paranoia-
actually, no, I wasn`t but...
with a person who has a new puppy, it it always helpful to point out basics to them, which that the dog isn`t `doing wrong` - a puppy poops where it poops, it`s us that insist it does it in a particular place. So teaching the puppy a `I`m Angry` word is a little self-defeating, because the pup doesn`t see pooping as `wrong`.
Dogs are creatures of habit. If you continually encourage the pup to `go` in a certain spot, and eliminate scents in areas there have been accidents, it isn`t necessary to turn it into a battle where one side doesn`t understand the rules.
unfortunately, I potentially see far more serious issues here than those associated with house training - I hope I am proved wrong
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24-10-2010, 10:54 AM
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unfortunately, I potentially see far more serious issues here than those associated with house training - I hope I am proved wrong
ever the optimist? We all have to start somewhere, and this Forum has proved a lifeline for some members and their dogs. The OP has asked for help, which is the intelligent thing to do, so her dog has a better chance than many.
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24-10-2010, 10:59 AM
Oh ok yes I completely agree I have never said anything to my dogs when they do anything in the house I just remove them to the garden, I lived in a flat when I had Toby and that was sooo much harder I have to say it's a whole lot easier with a garden and my pup caught on quite quick. Maybe someone upstairs thought I needed a break after having Toby's toilet training.
I just want to say you can also get a spray that you spray outside, this kinda worked for Tob's. In the end I think I took the paper down and he wee'd on that and I then just poured the wee on the floor so he had he's scent there ......yes I know I looked like a right loon and it wasn't just once or twice but he got it finally HOORAY
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24-10-2010, 11:04 AM
With both dogs and children I found it an interesting exercise to get through a day without saying 'no' or 'don't do that'.

It is a fun challenge for parents and dog owners!

I managed a few days with Etta but I had to be very aware of it as a challenge.

So many times we say 'no' to kids and dogs and there is no reason for it. You need to stop every time and think if you really need to say it.

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