Thank's claire I see i have missed this post with the bite picture and as I was one of the one's mentioning it, he is a lovely dog and If you read back a few pages you will see before all this blew up I said he was, I personaly wouldn't have a cropped dog but have docked dog's.
Fluffybunny feet I also like docked dog's as does lot's of people and it was tore to pieces in another thread, I prefer boxer's docked but when your law in the mainland comes here to the north we will breed boxers with tail to be kept intact.

But in the mean time each and everyone of us is entitled to a opinion and not ridiculed because of it. If BD and Bilclaire likes cropped also then that's fine there opinion, but what some people should also beaware of just latley posting anything about our dog's on dogsey is like being thrown to the wolves so maybe that's why we willingly put up picture's in other section's. Not many will put in critque section as compared to many other section's.
Now that's just my opinion.

No dog is perfect, ok things could have been worded better on the thread, but I thought he looked overshot, then again I know feck all about dobes, thank god

But Shona underneath all the skin and talk he is a dog, pure and simple and you don't need to know certain breed's to know a good dog.
The same can be said bout horses, you look past the muck and dirt and you see a good un is worth having.

Due to some of these comments given in this "critique" , you would have to wonder why any of us would want to subject ourselves or our dogs to such a "personal attack"

The comments above have nothing to do with "critiquing " the dog, they are personal political views...and I would hope have no place in this section.

It will take a brave soul to lay their dogs bare to this sort of "critique" or attack, in the future.

We all have opinions , on docked/cropped, European V UK standards... and they should be given out with politeness.

You can almost feel the steam coming out of some of those comments.

And I have to agree with the OP, and do feel some of those comments where simply because the dog is cropped.

This section is suposed to be a bit of fun... not a slating of said dog.

I think its about run its course. There were some very nasty comments made about this Dog, totally unfounded IMO. The OP shouldnt of had to post pictures of the Dogs mouth, nobody else has.

Whether you like cropped ears or not, docked tails or not, the BREED STANDARD accomodates BOTH and thats what the critique should of been based on, not peoples personal opinion of what they do or dont like themselves.

Perhaps we can put this one to bed now?

I dont really have a view on the cropping, I have found this thread getting a bit ott, but I have learned from it too, yes the uk breeding and the Euro breeding is very diff, I did ask questions as its not what Im used to seeing, over all I like the dog, I dont think the personal things about butchering should have came into it though,,

I agree with you Shona.

i dont know much about Dobies, breed standard or breed showing, but i think hes fabulous & looks l;ike he could defintally do the job he was bred for! i love his head & his expression, Im not keen on sticky up ears on any dog, natural or not, i dont like cropping & would never want to own a cropped or DOCKED dog, but tbh his ears do suit him!!!!

I agree with you both BD and Shona. xxxx

My friends have greman bred Dobermanns and Merlin is a beautiful example of continental breeding