The same thing as one study in one research paper proves

birkdale petshop, Liverpool rd Birkdale Southport has just opened selling good quality barf been there got some beef,chicken,tripe, chix wings/carcasses turkey drums and wings plus beef and lamb bones all quite reasonable and i found cheaper and better than what i was getting elsewhere

Sorry posted here instead of the raw feeding picture thread - what a dolls head!

What would be the ideal bone for Malamutes? I'm not to keen on giving full carcasses.

This thread has been really helpful,thanks.

The ideal bone really depends on how they eat them - you have to try it and see but in general I would start with chicken bones - big chunks as big as their heads so they chew not gulp (although gulping chicken bones later isnt a huge deal) Then I would prob look at non weight bearing bones like lamb or pork ribs (leave beef for now as its pretty tough) Weight bearing bones some people dont feed, depends how much force your dogs munch with - personally I feed knuckle bones and mine chew away at the joint and gnaw a bit at the bone to get the marrow out - but dont try breaking their teeth by trying to crack the bones or anything

You can feed anything you like, I feed weight bearing bones such as chicken thighs, legs, turkey drumsticks etc and with a breed like a Malamute their jaws will make short work of all.

My dogs can consume a turkey drumstick in 2 minutes.

Why are you not keen on giving whole carcassses? My GSD was having whole carcasses at 8 weeks old.

Do you want bones as in raw meaty bones ie a source of nutrition or a source of occupation?

I don't understand how people can be unsure of feeding carcasses, surely they are better than wings which have smaller bones etc, my lab x was on carcasses at 10 weeks.

My posts, page 16 on this thread..
http://www.dogsey.com/showthread.php?t=153878&page=16

She was having rabbits and everything.

Thanks for the reply's.

My boy is a bit of a fast eater, so giving him some small chicken wings would concern me as he would probably try to swallow them whole. My 2 bitches are delicate eaters so they should be okay with chicken. Would it not be okay to go straight on to ribs?

I don't really have a problem with carcasses, my OH isn't keen on me putting them on raw but I would really like to try it, so just feel that something a bit less in your face than a carcass might help me convince her.

I'd want the bones as a source of nutrition. I want to feed the prey model. I was thinking of feeding meat, liver and eggs mixed together 3 days a week as their only meal, then just meat another 3 days but on those days giving them bones in the evening, and for the last day of the week meat and heart. Does that sound okay, or should I be following a different routine?

It does not matter if dogs swallow stuff whole, they are designed to rip, tear, gulp, swallow food in competition with others of the pack.

If they cannot cope with it they just upchuck it and reprocess it, that way it is a BOGOF (Bite one get one free)!

Ribs are fine if you can afford them but usually their bone to meat ratio is quite high; also being older the bones are less "plastic" than chicken bones of 6 weeks of age.

I do not do any sort of "model" (apart from my own) so they get what I consider they need based on extensive research, studying and 11 years of practice!

I am not sure I would mix meat liver and eggs together at any time but certainly not when starting out.

Starting out with ONE source and type of meal is usually the safest way to go (IMHO) and then gradually phase in different sources, cuts, etc in order to determine what, if anything, does not suit your dog.

Have you read any books? Do you belong to any specialist raw feeding sites?

Copperheys, I am in the middle of finishing my raw guide, I've had no internet for 2 weeks so had time to write up what I know, researched etc on raw. I was going to PM you but you haven't reached 25 posts yet. So when you do PM me your email and I can send it you. It should be finished by then, just waiting on some fruit and veg bits and a menu plan.

Also my OH had no idea I was switching ours over - at the end of the day I feed them, walk them, pick up their mess, therefore I choose what they eat... He had no choice in the matter. (He's in the forces so he can't feed, walk etc - just realised that could make him out to sound lazy )