are your hounds registered with MFHA x-clo-x ?


I dont know anyone involved in sabbing that has ever harmed a horse or hound...and foxes arent vermin they are an important indigenous species.

Totally agree

i presume theyre registered ive never asked, will find out sunday but they must be, we do displays at shows and things..

my issue with foxes is that there arent anything that kills them and keeps their numbers in control. they kill farmers chickens, ducks, geese, even lambs and sheep, and they have a right to protect their livelihood. they also kill alot of wild birds and animals, so its only fair to keep their numbers in control so other species have chance to thrive.

i dont want foxes gone all together, and i have respect for the animals, however they do need numbers controlling.

Well its hard to report anyone that has their face covered, not sure how many hunts you have been on , but the only time the police are out is on the boxing day meet.

Yes i have witnesses so called animal lovers abusing horses and hounds, once with a young child on the back of the pony.

i had no need to report the incident as the father of said child dealt with it , and left the anti in full understanding of his actions.

If they are registered what will happen to them when theyre no longer of any use? MFHA dont allow registered hounds to be found homes.


So what controlled fox numbers before man decided they 'needed' controlling?


Actually foxes are beneficial to agriculture they keep down rabbits plus voles and other rodents, though a large part of their diet is invertabrates. Poor husbandry is by far the main cause of livestock mortality. The findings of Defra study on lamb predation...

Deaths due to all predators (i.e. not just foxes) and misadventures combined account for only 5% of this figure, whereas 95% is due to poor husbandry and a variety of management problems.



I know fox can cause havoc to poultry but there are humane ways of keeping them safe, the onus should be on farmers, killing should be a last resort not the 1st.

Fox and their indiginous prey species have co-existed for millennia, foxes shouldnt be used as the scapegoat when invariably its going to be due to manmade pressues that are the root of the decline, shouldnt we be trying to put our own house in order before killing a native species?



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Have to agree. n my experience. Verbal abuse is "normal"

I have no idea, but hunt sabs have and do. They have purposely led Hounds onto railways etc.. Fed them poison, all sorts. Bloody disgraceful.

Ahh so only anecdotal then

http://nwhsa.wordpress.com/category/hunt-sabs/


http://www.realca.co.uk/violence/hunt-convictions



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Always the case isnt it? I mean why? If you have no problem with what you are doing and you believe you are acting within the law, why cover yourself up and look like some SAS assasin!! How many people on hunts do that? Foot followers or on horseback?

My issue with human beings is that there aren't any predators that kills THEM and keeps THEIR numbers in control.

I am not a bunny hugger, I eat meat, I would be happy to kill my own food if I had to, but I just don't buy this "such and such is vermin, and therefore needs to be controlled". Vermin is as vermin does, one man's meat is another man's poison.

The only true vermin IMO on this planet is man - because there is little to check our numbers. We have cancer, we have disease, for sure, but our numbers are increasing and increasing with no apparent solution. WE are the vermin, not foxes!