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Originally Posted by
smokeybear
I never needed empty threats to handle children, the people that use them have children who KNOW their parents are NOT going to leave them at the supermarket, NOT going to let a dog bite them, NOT going to allow a policeman to take them away from their family just because the parents are too feeble to provide consequences themselves.
It is quite simple, you do x this is what happens, it happened and thus I did not get a recurrence.
Children appreciate and deserve to be treated with the same respect and fairness we expect for ourselves.
Children learn what they live, saying things like "the policeman will take you away" is just plain nasty and of course untrue!
Amazing how those who believe in positive reinforcement for dogs do not think it applies to children!
It is not about being politically correct either or being permissive, it is about the person RESPONSIBLE being RESPONSIBLE for outcomes.
Good post, Smokeybear
I agree.
In my view, children need love, boundaries, and (fair) consequences and also to be rewarded when they do the right thing.
I think a lot of kids, are not often praised - they are allowed to run riot, with impotent parents looking on fondly (or stressedly, depending on the parent
) or else constantly told off and not really shown what to do.
I've heard parents threaten their children to keep their hands on the trolley in a supermarket, or their fingers will be cut off (said in a horrible way, I can't explain it - it was more like abuse... ) and once heard a mother tell her child to get in the car or she'd cut his head off
Also seen mothers call their children "bitches". My heart went out to one little girl - she was so desperate to be with her mum, and her mum just scathinglly called her a "nasty bitch, I hate you" . Flipping awful parenting ...
Clear, calm, firm and kind direction is very important. Lots of praise for good behviour and for trying. And yes, one must always follow through with a consequence, I strongly believe this.
JMO though!
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