ditto 'electric collar'

Azz does not want Dogsey associated with e-collars. It is difficult because he doesn't want it associated with censorship or freedom of speech in the blog section either.

How about a poll? If it is a minority that want the blogs to remain, perhaps they could 'blog' in a designated section of the forum - but only on certain subjects (eg similar to those for which the blogs were originally intended)?

-become a new game!

I typed 'dog training with e-collars' and 'e-collar training' and got dogsey on page 3.

Yes I thought that too, not one of my best ideas..

well, i typed e collar recall and e collar dogtra just as krlyr did, and i didnt find dogsey at all by page 4, so im not to sure what she means.

all in all, still nothing for azz to worry about, no one is ever going to click links on page 3 (for any search topic), probably not even page 2.
especially when page 1 has loads of gun dog, ecollar manufactures, youtube videos, and wiki pages on e collars.

you wouldnt bother after that.

Yes, we try to be as open as we can be legally. As I said deleting posts that are considered advertising is not the same - they are not dog-related opinions, but adverts. A discussion forum is... to discuss things, not advertise things.

Re someone kicking their dog, we would report them to the relevant authorities - as it's against the law

I'm not bothered whether google indexes us for electric collar search terms or not - actually, I think it would be a good thing... so more people get to hear our members opinions on the matter

I am bothered about having to 'censor' topics when it comes to dog related opinions - as we pride ourselves on being an open platform where you can discuss anything dog related. (In fact anything that's legally ok dog related or not - as we have off-topic sections too.)

I think the keyword there is discuss - which is why I think it would possibly, probably be ok to impose a ban on shock collars in blogs, as they are secondary to the forums and as I mentioned in the first post were brought in as a goodwill gesture.

Then to avoid any uncertainty, ban their discussion everywhere, Azz. After all, their use has been banned in Wales and the majority of us are hoping that the same will happen in England.

Or do a poll to see what people think, if there is still any uncertainty?

Most folk won't mind at all (and many will be very pleased) because most folk on here are against their use anyway.

Worldwide or UK? I expect that may be difference?

Sorry if I seem to be all over the place on this one - it's just that I can see the problem and that there is no ideal solution so I am trying to chuck ideas in for consideration.