If I ignore your posts then who's going to point out how dangerous it can be for people to thrust their finger and yell No under a very large powerful dogs nose . Dogs have killed for less.

Dogsey members and guests are from all over the world they will be in contact with the huge big jawed breeds that we in the UK know little about, some are banned You didnt say yell but people will do that if it doesnt work the first time.


Its naive to come on to a mainly PR forum and not expect to get carp for using a shock collar. They are not widely used and its genuine reaction against them , it really does shock people ( no pun intended ) and they react to that .

I dont agree with everything Jodee says nor you either. I'm dont want to take sides.
I'm saying this with honesty ,
Regardless of who is "right" or "wrong", I think the difference between you and Jodee is that Jodee is genuinely concerned for the dogs and the damage that may happened and yes , you care very much but because you have or feel you have, been "gnasher bashed" you've lost track and its become about you and your "rights" and about your desire to prove you are right. Don't slip into letting your desire to prove you are right over ride the advice you give. That applies to everyone including me , its very easy to do .

As for the proof is in the pudding , with pups the puddings not eaten in two days , youre still eating it til they mature.
Thats one big pudding !


ETA . I'm really not trying to get at you or upset you . I like to hear about your dogs as I dont know much that breed. But I'm sure I'm not the only one to agree with jackie that sometimes the threads get taken over.
This isnt the chat section and we really all need to stick to the point and remeber the thread is about the OP and her dog.












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@ gnasher
As I know you do own a husky/malamute cross too. Do you have any trick to crate train our puppy?! We bought a kong. also have loads of other toys. But when we give it to him in the crate he only nips at it as long as we are in the same room or next to him, he preferres us than any toy sometimes when he goes voluntarily inside, we go and reward him, to be there. of course everybody can answer, he has to learn I have to teach him to be alone sometimes at least one hour would be fine.

Myrsky, I just wanted to apologize for going off on a tangent on your thread. In the end, you'll gather all advice given, try what you believe will work best for you, and go with what your dog responds to best.

Its all good, even though interesting discussions.
I got my answers, but Im still glad to hear any advice for different issues to help me educate and train my puppy, because once again we are beginners.
One quick question>
I do leash training with treats, (only thing that works), but even then sometimes he wont let go to stare or try to get to people where ever they walk. (I use his normal food, to not overfeed him) but it takes a lot of treats to make a little walk, with "all" this destructions.is it ok to train with treats/food at the beginning?!

BTW: Myrsky is still nipping at my boyfriends clothes (pants) when he gets up to leave because he was biting during play again,... takes some time right?!

to be honest, you need to make yourself more interesting than whatever it is that he is trying to get too... you need high value treats, something really special so doing as he is asked is worthwhile to him

That wasn't the link I was talking about ... however if you scroll down the page to the heading .. "The number of fatalities caused by dog bites is increasing!

And then to the paragraph which reads "More recent information about fatal dog attacks is found in publications by individuals not govermental agencies", below that you'll see the name Merritt Clifton and a pdf with all the statistics for the US and CANADA!

Where did I say that ABSOLUTELY NO Shar-Pei can tolerate grain? I used the Shar-Pei as an example of a breed which can develop quite severe skin problems when fed grain. Most breeders and Pei rescues recommend feeding a high protein, grain free diet to alleviate any worries about allergies.

Just because you saw what you believed to be a litter of Pei puppies who were given Pro Plan at your local shelter, doesn't mean that they were being given the right diet. Did you follow their progress after they'd been adopted to check whether they had any health problems related to diet?

Your quite right this thread is not the place to air your views about what you consider to be "unnaturally built breeds".

Why BARF feeding came into the discussion when I said I feed my dogs home cooked? And yes they get vegetables added to their meat ... what's wrong with that?

Last but not least despite your great knowledge of the breed you seem to be unaware that the plural of Shar-Pei is SHAR-PEI!

It was me that mentioned BARF in a post.
maria , it can stand for both Biologically Appropriate Raw Feeding and also Bones and raw diet .

myrsky,
if you have a back yard or garden , I would practise loose lead walking there where there are no distractions so he has an idea of what is expected when he is out on the pavement or road.
Its is natural for him to be curious of the big wide world. I used to walk a little bichon puppy and he used to stare at eveything, it took ages to get anywhere. I would let harry satisfy his curiosity but if it took too long I would say this way and persuade him along including using a treat but as has already been said , you might need a higher value treat.

It does take time with pups , they can be very persistent.
Does the trouser grabbing happen every time you boyfriend gets up and does it happen with you . ? you can avoid this happening by you slipping a lead on or by you calling him into another room . it will stop him "practising " this behaviour .

Well, well... aren't we in a sprightly mood? Let's go, then. Firstly, I did not expressly say that you said all the breed, however, you said the Shar Pei is an example of a breed that cannot tolerate grain, or did I read that wrong? If the breed is an example of something, you'd think you meant all of them. If you didn't mean all of them, then the breed is as much of an example as the next breed, or even dog.

Moreover, it seems that most breeders of all dogs recommended a high protein, grain free diet since its closest to dogs natural diets. Why, even most vets and owners recommended that! What do you know? SHAR-PEI breeders are totally not unique in that regard. Strange, huh?

You would dare deny that humans have harmed many dogs by breeding them to have unnatural flaws such as bowed legs, excessive skin, short muzzles etc. that would make it impossible to survive in normal situations and cause many pets (even yours, remember?) severe, unnatural, and crippling health problems needing surgical repair?

Moving along, I did not say the puppies were given the right diet, only that I could see no ill effects. Not the same thing. I adopted my puppy from there and I don't feed Pro Plan. Who knows how they turned out, and this assumes they were even adopted.

I don't have to know a ton about that breed to not be a total idiot. I never claimed to know about the breed by the way, you said that out of sarcasm trying to mock my plural error, whatever. I made statements based on observation and I questioned you.

If shouting what you believe to be facts is the way to go, then fine. You have a good day.